Yikes!

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Jib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rmt is a big deal, it ruins communities / games / friendships

If you dont care about rmt you probably dont understand the impact is has on a community.

every problem on this box stems from RMT

all the hatred azrael vs nihilum etc it all stems back to rmt

No, it all stems from Azreal getting their shit pushed in for 2 years.

Shit, RMT is almost classic. They put up a fucking server where you could sell your items and characters legitimately through the Sony marketplace in the PoP era. The only way it ruins the community is when scummy shit happens like people trying to scam.

If I start seeing chinese gold farmers pop up I might change my mind. But one dude selling another dude a fungus aint doin' shit to ruin this server. There is a list a mile long of shit doing far more damage.

And lets say for a moment what you've said about raid drops being RMT'd is true. That is because Azrael is a shitty run guild. Even if Niz had wanted to sell a crown or robe to someone it never would have happened. He was one of several people making loot decisions and everyone had visibility into what people had looted, their raid attendance and how much DKP they had. Maybe you get away with that once, but when you're guild is founded on and thrives on items if you fuck with that people would have bailed.

[Jib]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it all stems from Azreal getting their shit pushed in for 2 years.

Shit, RMT is almost classic. They put up a fucking server where you could sell your items and characters legitimately through the Sony marketplace in the PoP era. The only way it ruins the community is when scummy shit happens like people trying to scam.

If I start seeing chinese gold farmers pop up I might change my mind. But one dude selling another dude a fungus aint doin' shit to ruin this server. There is a list a mile long of shit doing far more damage.

And lets say for a moment what you've said about raid drops being RMT'd is true. That is because Azrael is a shitty run guild. Even if Niz had wanted to sell a crown or robe to someone it never would have happened. He was one of several people making loot decisions and everyone had visibility into what people had looted, their raid attendance and how much DKP they had. Maybe you get away with that once, but when you're guild is founded on and thrives on items if you fuck with that people would have bailed.

ive posted multiple times small scale rmt is no big deal to me, its when you spend 30+ peoples time to raid then rmt raid level loots i have the problem with.

Nizzar didnt sell stuff like pd robes crowns of rile. he used a different method. all the extra's he would sell for blue plat and sell it that way. I have footage of nizzar talking about how he has like 50 paladin bp's from trak in the bank. i understand all that stuff was banned but the fact is he had it and he was selling things piece by piece of over accumulated items from the guild. He didnt work alone rallyd and a few others they all have a business. they arent rich its just enough to pay rent food and utilities so they can live to game. problem is it kills the casual population to have people like this.

[krazyGlue]

Originally Posted by Jib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ive posted multiple times small scale rmt is no big deal to me, its when you spend 30+ peoples time to raid then rmt raid level loots i have the problem with.

Nizzar didnt sell stuff like pd robes crowns of rile. he used a different method. all the extra's he would sell for blue plat and sell it that way. I have footage of nizzar talking about how he has like 50 paladin bp's from trak in the bank. i understand all that stuff was banned but the fact is he had it and he was selling things piece by piece of over accumulated items from the guild. He didnt work alone rallyd and a few others they all have a business. they arent rich its just enough to pay rent food and utilities so they can live to game. problem is it kills the casual population to have people like this.

send your proof to sirken. either it be small scale or big scale. throw me under the buss if u think i rmt and if u got proof. i dont like rmt, and would disband azrael in seconds if prof is provided to me that lite or anyone else with power has done so.

[Jib]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

send your proof to sirken. either it be small scale or big scale. throw me under the buss if u think i rmt and if u got proof. i dont like rmt, and would disband azrael in seconds if prof is provided to me that lite or anyone else with power has done so.

if i wanted any of you guys banned i would have sent the footage to the staff not the public.

Id rather the whole server know whats going on than having people banned and what happened brushed under the rug.

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by krazyGlue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

send your proof to sirken. either it be small scale or big scale. throw me under the buss if u think i rmt and if u got proof. i dont like rmt, and would disband azrael in seconds if prof is provided to me that lite or anyone else with power has done so.

[Smedy]

is rallyd the guy who sounds he is darth vader in teamspeak?

[Mac Drettj]

Originally Posted by Smedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

is rallyd the guy who sounds he is darth vader in teamspeak?

Rallyd top tier EQ player. Wud play with Rallyd any time.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Jib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ive posted multiple times small scale rmt is no big deal to me, its when you spend 30+ peoples time to raid then rmt raid level loots i have the problem with.

Nizzar didnt sell stuff like pd robes crowns of rile. he used a different method. all the extra's he would sell for blue plat and sell it that way. I have footage of nizzar talking about how he has like 50 paladin bp's from trak in the bank. i understand all that stuff was banned but the fact is he had it and he was selling things piece by piece of over accumulated items from the guild. He didnt work alone rallyd and a few others they all have a business. they arent rich its just enough to pay rent food and utilities so they can live to game. problem is it kills the casual population to have people like this.

So Niz sold a bunch of shit nobody wanted?

Wow still don't care.

[Jib]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Niz sold a bunch of shit nobody wanted?

Wow still don't care.

people wanted it, but they all quit the server back in classic, you weren't around back then so I don't blame you for not knowing. Your leader Nizzar would go to any means to win. lots of exploiting was done, the Nagafen wall glitch which he perfected was the most dangerous of them all. When p99 red first came out the population was a stable 400 to 550 at peak play time for like the first week or two. Nizzar glitched nagafen in the wall so she wouldnt attack back for I think was 3 kills in a row so 3 weeks. This forced the opponent <Holocaust> to go to the same measures which they got caught and banned and the server pop plummeted to like 50-100 people which later became 15-35 which later turned into only nihilum on the server and it was a ghost town for a year or so.

that's why rmt is bad for the server pop

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So Niz sold a bunch of shit nobody wanted?

Wow still don't care.

No care

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda funny watching Azrael members ignoring obvious and blatant RMT within their ranks, while simultaneously calling out former Nihilum members for doing the same thing.

Care