Class R

[TMBLOW]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Want vp mobs? Move up in raid class. Easy solution. Anything else won't happen. I have my faith in Sirken, Deru and Rogean about this.

no one wants them that bad :P

I think many are missing the entire point but its RnF

lets see some gifs/boobs/asses and LOLz

[BurgyK]

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[botrainer]

Class R made this deal months ago, if they woulda seen that without VP the game isnt as fun they shoulda held out for some sorta VP rotation or kept talks at a stall.

Dont go back on your word now, means you cant be trust and would be no better then ISIS.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by botrainer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Class R made this deal months ago, if they woulda seen that without VP the game isnt as fun they shoulda held out for some sorta VP rotation or kept talks at a stall.

Dont go back on your word now, means you cant be trust and would be no better then ISIS.

You're a fucking moron. Class R didn't dictate anything. Rogean came down from on high and decided what would happen, period. Class R didn't get what we wanted, neither did C, it was what the staff wanted.

[SyanideGas]

mewmewmew pixels.

[wycca]

There's no denying that using the word "raid" in the same sentence as a mob that has 32k hp is just stupid.

Nevertheless, if you want VP - go to C. There's nothing preventing anyone from dropping the rotation and getting more trak teeth - which is a significant and real barrier to entry. It's also entirely a side effect of being in the rotation. Past that, it's all organization & desire. If you don't got it, don't expect all the rewards to fall in your lap. It's everyones choice on how they play, but you can't expect every playstyle to have the same rewards.

The argument to make all repops FFA and to eliminate the FFA category from normal mobs is a good one - that's why I proposed it in the FAP forum months ago. It's a smart way to allow some competition (which believe it or not a majority of the R guilds want), without the stupidity of Cothduck-quest and poopsocks that Class C and FFA consists of.

On the flip side, this is all moot shortly. Velious being FFA is going to allow things to sort out, and I'll tell you that EVERY guild (yes every guild) is woefully unprepared for Velious. It's anyone's game....as long as people have some vision and are willing to put in some work. What's likely to happen is the guilds who don't do anything to make their future better (ie prepare for Velious) and don't get the resources ready (ie trackers & coth bots) in advance are going to be outclassed. Then they'll whine later about how unfair it all is....when they could've been spending the last 5 months (and the next 4 months) working to make their lot better. Yes, beta is a great resource, and people that don't have an ounce of foresight to see how insanely amazing having it available as a tool to hone your competitiveness for the next several years is...just needs to be banned from complaining.

While I respect and consider friends much of the R guild leadership that I talk to and have worked with, I am absolutely appalled at the utter lack of focus they've given Beta & prepping for Velious, and it's going to hurt their guilds' success immensely. Even C guilds have been making poor use of beta. So yea, Velious is gonna be a popcorn show, guilds will fold, new ones will be born, and don't say I didn't tell ya. It's quite possible that the guilds that simply show up (IB, TMO, and Taken) will end up doing well merely by dint of showing up, but there's room for a smart guild who is prepared to be a winner too...except nobody is taking advantage of that path. Total lack of foresight.

[jcr4990]

ITT: Class C raid members that forgot C stands for "Competitive"

Explain to me why a rotation of Class R / FFA / Class R / FFA on every mob in the game is a bad thing. You guys DO want Competition right? Or do you just want free/easy pixels in VP? Reading this thread its kinda feeling like the latter is true.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ITT: Class C raid members that forgot C stands for "Competitive

No no, in their minds its really class P for Pixels and class W for welfare.

I do wish Sirken had not deleted all those posts by Unbrella and Doraf extolling the virtues of EverQuest competition. I think I could even challenge the Clear v Clear thread.

On second thought, probably not. That was genius.

[Detoxx]

You class r guilds keep claiming that we are worried about our pixel flow in vp, but don't even realize that 4/6 dragons in there have loot that sucks. Your incessant bitching and crying 10 months ago killed this server and any semblance of classic eq that was left. You truthfully don't deserve what you get now, and definitely don't deserve free shots in vp.

I could even look past all that but then I think about taken sitting in kc with 55 people for vs. Ib had 10, tmo had 10. The LAST thing we need is 60 people sitting at vp entrance coth ducking. Step up or shut up ffs.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You class r guilds keep claiming that we are worried about our pixel flow in vp, but don't even realize that 4/6 dragons in there have loot that sucks. Your incessant bitching and crying 10 months ago killed this server and any semblance of classic eq that was left. You truthfully don't deserve what you get now, and definitely don't deserve free shots in vp.

I could even look past all that but then I think about taken sitting in kc with 55 people for vs. Ib had 10, tmo had 10. The LAST thing we need is 60 people sitting at vp entrance coth ducking. Step up or shut up ffs.

Pretty sure it was TMO monopolizing the end game for years that killed the server and the rotation revitalized it. Unless you think a 400 pop at peak hours is healthier than 1k. If raiding here sucks so bad to you now, why are you here?