2nd mass pvp

[LostCause]

goog times indeed RIP brennard

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember when Azrael tried to "contest" by logging in 6 rogues on the VS pull and killstealing? But the glorious and all knowing Duke fooled them completely with a false incoming call in TS knowing there were spies?

Good times.

You know its gotten truly terrible around here when Nizzar is some kind of folk hero now

[Kergan]

I think in time people will realize he wasn't as bad as some people made it seem. In the end, he cared about killing raid targets and that's it. A lot of stuff went on behind the scenes to build and sustain Nihilum. Sure some RMT was happening, but you don't build a guild almost entirely around people getting loot and then deny it to them to make a few bucks and keep the shit alive for 2 years.

And this is coming from someone who was kind of a black sheep in the guild, and who was on the verge of getting the boot because of my big mouth. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've had a chance to be in a guild now with a lot of people I "in-game hated", and what has really stood out to me is how we're all kinda the same and I don't really dislike anyone aside from a small group. Shit, Nirgon can go back in his PMs and find one of me asking what the fuck is up with this Colgate guy? Fast forward to now and I've been in TS with the guy and PVP'd with him and you see what he is all about.

I think the problem we have now is you have this beaten dog in Lite who has spent more time than anyone logged into this server, 99% of it with Niz's foot on his throat. He is always going to be fighting this enemy that doesn't exist anymore, and he is using Holo to personify it for him.

Nothing will really change though, people have been set in their ways for years now. GMs blame the players and wont step in and clean up the mess, because everyone treats them like shit. But to use an analogy I saw on the blue forums a while back, you don't create a dogfighting ring (r99) then blame the dogs for fighting.

TLDR

[Nirgon]

Nizzar was definitely bad for box.

But you can see why I never wore an Azrael or Nihilum tag.

You can also see why I've supported Colgate/Cwall so much.

[Mac Drettj]

lite had his shit pushed in so long hes unable to adjust

[daasgoot]

so much talk of fraps trains prof.

plz share so people can review.

otherwise.. never happened.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nizzar was definitely bad for box.

But you can see why I never wore an Azrael or Nihilum tag.

You can also see why I've supported Colgate/Cwall so much.

I dunno, it's kind of a chicken or egg situation imo. If we had a 500+ pop box, Niz's activities wouldn't have been any different than the bigger guilds on any other PVP server. So did Nihilum keep the population low with their stranglehold, or was that stranglehold only possible because of the low pop?

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dunno, it's kind of a chicken or egg situation imo. If we had a 500+ pop box, Niz's activities wouldn't have been any different than the bigger guilds on any other PVP server. So did Nihilum keep the population low with their stranglehold, or was that stranglehold only possible because of the low pop?

Maybe it was only possible because of people like you defending his actions.




Which you are still doing...



Two months later...






Kergan it's time to stop being a scumbag.

[heartbrand]

actually agree with kergan, red's low pop made it impossible to make a viable 2nd guild

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

actually agree with kergan, red's low pop made it impossible to make a viable 2nd guild

You did it.

Grew da box.

I think my guilds actions shrunk the pop this past week. I can't place all the blame on Azrael though.

We do have a LnS policy. Use it.