Would you play on red if:

[Brut]

Had it half of classic, worst we rly got was erotic gore fanfic spammer.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only because of global OOC... introduce that to blue and I'm sure something similar will happen :/

I think you are missing the point. 700 toxic players out of 1000 is still less than 75 toxic players out of 100 on the ratio. At least on blue you have a bigger opportunity to find a small collect of individuals to enjoy the game with, while on red you have a way bigger chance of running into one of said 'toxic players', and they have the opportunity to grief you to oblivion.

I believe blue is going downhill as well with all the guild drama bullshit that happens everyday and the extremely poor way that the problems are being dealt with, but it isn't as bad as getting nothing done on red because you are being griefed by 1% of the population.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you are missing the point. 700 toxic players out of 1000 is still less than 75 toxic players out of 100 on the ratio. At least on blue you have a bigger opportunity to find a small collect of individuals to enjoy the game with, while on red you have a way bigger chance of running into one of said 'toxic players', and they have the opportunity to grief you to oblivion.

I believe blue is going downhill as well with all the guild drama bullshit that happens everyday and the extremely poor way that the problems are being dealt with, but it isn't as bad as getting nothing done on red because you are being griefed by 1% of the population.

Well its different on red. If you get killed 1v4 and the yellow text gives out the result (you were killed by Soandso), it looks like a 1v1 etc.

I challenge anyone not to defend that death as an unfair fight, to not say anything in ooc and take the reputation hit (particularly if a cleric got the killing blow or something).

A lot of ooc is just that, speculation about the yellow text...what really happened, who is lying, who is right, and such [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that's toxic then okay... you get used to it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well its different on red. If you get killed 1v4 and the yellow text gives out the result (you were killed by Soandso), it looks like a 1v1 etc.

I challenge anyone not to defend that death as an unfair fight, to not say anything in ooc and take the reputation hit (particularly if a cleric got the killing blow or something).

A lot of ooc is just that, speculation about the yellow text...what really happened, who is lying, who is right, and such [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that's toxic then okay... you get used to it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not worried about unfair fights. I am worried about what is at hand, griefing. The server is full of it, especially at lower levels. I've played for years on blue, and even tried red before returning to blue, and then quitting all together because of the drama bullshit that happens on both servers.

[fastboy21]

What I want is a pvp server that is exactly like pve.

[Rec]

a pvp server with 1200 people on it?

[K_Solstice]

I gave Red a try. I didn't hit issues of griefing in the short time I played but the empty zones and lack of players turned me off. Feels like not enough players on Blue as it is as I level up. I suspect the higher end and raiding is different/reversed.

[Clark]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you are missing the point. 700 toxic players out of 1000 is still less than 75 toxic players out of 100 on the ratio. At least on blue you have a bigger opportunity to find a small collect of individuals to enjoy the game with, while on red you have a way bigger chance of running into one of said 'toxic players', and they have the opportunity to grief you to oblivion.

I believe blue is going downhill as well with all the guild drama bullshit that happens everyday and the extremely poor way that the problems are being dealt with, but it isn't as bad as getting nothing done on red because you are being griefed by 1% of the population.

Haven't liked a lot of your posts lately, but agree with this one. Overall folks seemed nicer 09-11 seems like there's been a big shift in the number of folks acting entitled.

[Lime]

Some people just want to roleplay, socialize, and slay monsters while you camp some items and sit back and sip some wine while you watch your friends on facebook taking the ALS ice bucket challenge. If you are this kind of person and you do not enjoy confrontation with others, or you have thin skin and find someone getting the upper hand on you or pushing you out of a zone extremely demoralizing then you should probably stay away.

But if you are the kind of person that wants to test your mettle against other players, and enjoy the thrill of the hunt, then the Red experience can give you something that you can't get on blue, fighting real people that think and make decisions. High intensity fights on red can give you an adrenaline rush that you can not find on the blue server or most games these days where everyone's a winner. Everyone is not a winner on the red server, and if you show up with your B-Game not only are you not going to get a runner's up trophy but you are going to get destroyed and people are going to take pictures and video of your beating and put it to music on the forums for people to mock.

Yes the red server has a small community and it has some scummy people just as the blue server does, but I can say in this cesspool of roaming marauders and cutpurses I have found some brothers in arms to do battle with. If somehow you ever stand against insurmountable odds and manage to pull victory from the clutches of your enemies clenched gluttonous fist, only then will you understand why we play here. You will not find an experience like this in Call of Duty, or any new age RPG.

After experiencing this server, where skill is just as important as time investment, you may look back and find the blue server boring and dull. You also might find it more inviting than you remember it, as you go running back to your "Safe Place" where atleast you can use the bathroom without having to log out. Lastly you may also find that you are now a turncoat who they call the brigand of Unrest with only your trusty Ragebringer at your side and a chip on your shoulder. The type of person that sends people running back to the blue server kicking and screaming and scares children and lesser men at the grocery store checkout line.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Clark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haven't liked a lot of your posts lately, but agree with this one. Overall folks seemed nicer 09-11 seems like there's been a big shift in the number of folks acting entitled.

Truth.