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09-01-2010, 10:39 AM
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09-01-2010, 11:12 AM
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Bunch of idiots posting here. Its not ON ground zero, or AT ground zero. AND, this is America, you can build things, regardless of what you preach. Should we disallow churches to be built near ground zero too? See where I'm going? Idiots.
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09-01-2010, 04:57 PM
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I think they have an absolute right to build...but that does not mean that they should. Out of sensitivity for Americans who might be offended they should be good neighbors and move elsewhere to show their over the top effort to improve relations...
I would said the same thing if someone wanted to build a church near the site of a bombed abortion clinic...it's just a way of building good will rather than testing it. As for the violent biblical references, they are not the same as the Koran has. The violence of the old testament was done at a specific time and that context is over now. The gospel doesn't instruct Christians to be violent in the present tense. The Koran does. That's why there are entire countries of Muslims that believe and hope for demise of non Muslim states. I am not saying that there are not radicals who will and have done extremely violent acts in the name their faith (including Christianity). I am saying that in the middle east there are many violent Muslims who believe their faith has called them to take part in very violent things. This is very asymmetric when you hold it up next to radical Christians. Let me know the next time a Christian cuts a mans head off on camera while praying and chanting and puts it o. YouTube. It is not comparable with anything in the Christian faith. Again, I have said that American Islam is very different from the doctrine grown in the middle east. I have also said that American Islam is a beautiful and peaceful faith. American Muslims need to reject the faith that has corrupted the middle east and stop pretending that it doesn't exist or dismissing it by saying "all faiths have their fanatics.". | ||
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09-01-2010, 06:25 PM
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We can agree to disagree. I simply think radical Islam is a FAR bigger player in the modern world than radical christianity. It isn't about any one group of terrorists, christian or muslim.
I don't think the "average" middle eastern muslim wants to cut off my head...I never said that. I do believe that the average middle eastern muslim is not violent at all. But the forces of radicalism are much closer to the forefront of middle eastern countries than in Christian countries. That is all I am saying: the split is not 50-50. In today's world radical islam is a far bigger problem than radical christianity. this statement isn't based in racism or hatred, its a fair analysis of the current hot-bed of the world geopolitical problems today. If we want to address why so much radicalism is gripping the middle east we have to be honest that it exists and is not just the media spinning the facts. | ||
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09-01-2010, 06:30 PM
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Islamic extremism (Al-Qaeda) and Islamic radicalism (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Iran) are 2 very different things which are often confused. Extremists are the ones behind the attacks on 9/11. Radicals are against the policies of America and view American culture as immoral, evil and so forth, but are not seeking the destruction of American citizens, even if they wish for the downfall of the American Government. | ||||
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09-01-2010, 08:44 PM
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09-01-2010, 06:58 PM
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Not a mosque.
It's a community center, that happens to have a prayer room. It's not by ground zero, it's blocks away. There's already a mosque near ground zero anyway. If it was a church or synagogue, no one would have made a peep. It's their right. Deal with it. | ||
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09-01-2010, 08:35 PM
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09-01-2010, 08:39 PM
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(Is your real name Scott Gentries, elf?) ----------------- Man Already Knows Everything He Needs To Know About Muslims August 30, 2010 | ISSUE 46•35 SALINA, KS—Local man Scott Gentries told reporters Wednesday that his deliberately limited grasp of Islamic history and culture was still more than sufficient to shape his views of the entire Muslim world. Gentries, 48, said he had absolutely no interest in exposing himself to further knowledge of Islamic civilization or putting his sweeping opinions into a broader context of any kind, and confirmed he was "perfectly happy" to make a handful of emotionally charged words the basis of his mistrust toward all members of the world's second-largest religion. "I learned all that really matters about the Muslim faith on 9/11," Gentries said in reference to the terrorist attacks on the United States undertaken by 19 of Islam's approximately 1.6 billion practitioners. "What more do I need to know to stigmatize Muslims everywhere as inherently violent radicals?" "And now they want to build a mosque at Ground Zero," continued Gentries, eliminating any distinction between the 9/11 hijackers and Muslims in general. "No, I won't examine the accuracy of that statement, but yes, I will allow myself to be outraged by it and use it as evidence of these people's universal callousness toward Americans who lost loved ones when the Twin Towers fell." "Even though I am not one of those people," he added. When told that the proposed "Ground Zero mosque" is actually a community center two blocks north of the site that would include, in addition to a public prayer space, a 500-seat auditorium, a restaurant, and athletic facilities, Gentries shook his head and said, "I know all I'm going to let myself know." Gentries explained that it "didn't take long" to find out as much about the tenets of Islam as he needed to. He said he knew Muslims stoned their women for committing adultery, trained for terrorist attacks at fundamentalist madrassas, and believed in jihad, which Gentries described as the thing they used to justify killing infidels. "All Muslims are at war with America, and I will resist any attempt to challenge that assertion with potentially illuminating facts," said Gentries, who threatened to leave the room if presented with the number of Muslims who live peacefully in the United States, serve in the country's armed forces, or were victims themselves of the 9/11 attacks. "Period." "If you don't believe me, wait until they put your wife in a burka," Gentries continued in reference to the face-and-body-covering worn by a small minority of Muslim women and banned in the universities of Turkey, Tunisia, and Syria. "Or worse, a rape camp. That's right: For reasons I am content being totally unable to articulate, I am choosing to associate Muslims with rape camps." Over the past decade, Gentries said he has taken pains to avoid personal interactions or media that might have the potential to compromise his point of view. He told reporters that the closest he had come to confronting a contrary standpoint was tuning in to the first few seconds of an interview with a moderate Muslim cleric before hastily turning off the television. "I almost gave in and listened to that guy defend Islam with words I didn't want to hear," Gentries said. "But then I remembered how much easier it is to live in a world of black-and-white in which I can assign the label of 'other' to someone and use him as a vessel for all my fears and insecurities." Added Gentries, "That really put things back into perspective." | |||
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