Variance

[Kergan]

Honestly, what I would do is take take all the raid mobs, divide them up and say:

This group goes to Nihilum this week.
Second group goes to Az/whoever this week.
Third group we fight over like men.

Fuck this server with no PVP, best times I've had are the brawls over mobs. People quit when they don't get pixels.

Variance kills it for me.

[HippoNipple]

Variance helps hardcore players and a group of 15-25 can do a lot but they need to play A LOT.

This would be good for Lite's core players and it is bad for casual players.

I think it is in Lite's favor but I think it is fair for groups of 15-25 people with really high play times to be viable.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when you say the worst aspect, you are thinking that these people sitting at the spawn are not going to be getting PVP'd . Believe me, my crew and many other crews will be actively causing PVP in whatever location a spawn is expected and people are gathered. This isn't blue, its such a different dynamic.

Not the kind of PVP I'm interested in, man. I'm surprised the idea of porting around wiping out level 10 ranger trackbots excites you.

[lite]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

pussies quit when they don't get pixels..

ftfy

[lite]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not the kind of PVP I'm interested in, man. I'm surprised the idea of porting around wiping out level 10 ranger trackbots excites you.

what lvl 10 ranger are you planning to park for CT , all the VP dragons, Innoruk , Trakanon . these are all FFA zones, if you want to know when its going to spawn you are going to have to have at least a group present, and that group is going to be getting attacked. Believe me.

[hivemind]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if the same guild still gets most the loot what's the point? Wasting hundreds of hours on the worst aspect of EverQuest so 10% of the less active population can see a dragon once a month will just drive people away.

Who are you and what guild are you in? Changing the code is literally an instance of copy/paste ... who cares about the players "wasting" their time when they log into the elf sim or not. You either log in because you want to play the game, or you don't. So for the sake of keeping your delusions at bay, try not referencing the concept of "wasting hundreds of hours" in Everquest. Newsflash: /played = "wasted" time.

For all the posts in this thread that I hear people disagreeing in primarily one of two ways:

1) "Variance won't change anything" Well, if this is actually the case (and not just a poorly supported hypothesis), then I guess the only thing that was lost is the 10 seconds it must take to copy/replace this line of code between the red and blue servers.

2) "Blue is a shitfest with variance, you are dumb if you think that variance will help out red" Well, you are almost certainly a blue player if you are still struggling with the concept of being able to attack people on this server. Furthermore, there are no compendiums of raid rules and engagements for this server... you also cannot afk for hours upon hours at a spawn point. This kind of perspective is the more immediately disregardable of the two, but both viewpoints are incredibly short-sighted.

Again, a no-variance system favors the team/guild/force that is dominant. If you have any understanding of basic sociology (or are capable of remedial level critical thinking) then you must understand that a person or group in power will not want to give up power. If you are in a dominant guild and you are arguing against variance while simultaneously saying that it won't change anything ... you just look like a damned fool.

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by hivemind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that you have not quoted to refute any of my original post means that you haven't read (or been able to understand) my post, or that you are unable to refute my continuous assertions that a variance system will bring more competition to this server.

I understand that the idea itself, as obvious as it may seem to me, may be harder for other people to understand. For this reason, I actually went to some length to explain in very simple terms how a no-variance system takes away competitiveness and reinforces the power of "strength in numbers" strategy.

I didn't quote them because I don't care about your post. You're being pedantic and arrogant for no reason. Do you talk down to people like that all the time, or is it just fun for you?

I'm not even talking to you or arguing for/ against variance. I'm being critical of a guild that was doing well and is now on the boards asking for changes more frequently than usual after only a few weeks of not doing well.

I could care less if variance is implemented. If you want me to refute you though, Nihilum has more neckbeards that will sit in every zone where a raid target is due and still get 90% of the targets.

In theory, with pvp, the potential is wider for other guilds to get mobs, surely, but even that can be curbed by even more zerging on one side. People will adapt. They always do.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what lvl 10 ranger are you planning to park for CT , all the VP dragons, Innoruk , Trakanon . these are all FFA zones, if you want to know when its going to spawn you are going to have to have at least a group present, and that group is going to be getting attacked. Believe me.

More small scale skirmishes, more play time needed, less large scale battles.

It benefits a guild who can put in more hours total vs who can load up more players for specific times. Still easier for a zerg guild to put up more hours with more players but no lifers can help balance it a little bit.

[Mac Drettj]

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[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by hivemind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have any understanding of basic sociology (or are capable of remedial level critical thinking)

hahahaha

you are such a lousy cunt