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Old 05-16-2014, 12:36 AM
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Thank you for the straight-forward reply Drak. I've always had good experiences with you - both on my necro Arcade and wizard Grammy.

In my entire career on P99 Blue and Red, I've never stolen an item from anyone, screwed over anyone, or cheated/lied/blackmailed to get ahead. I'm sure Checkraise and other former Red Dawn members can attest that I'm not a liar, nor scumbag.

I have no dog in the Nihilum-Azrael agendas. I play for fun, and have little time to re-farm all of that lost gear. It's a shame, I wish I could play EQ 24/7, but alas I have a full time job and real life responsibilities.

I did follow the proper channels. I contacted Raenys in-game on multiple characters. I contacted Nizzarr and other high-ranking Nilly officers, who were little help (understandably, they had no clue on such a trivial matter - I don't blame Nilly as a guild at all).

Why would I make this up? I'm that desperate to get a Weighted Axe I'd throw my own rep down the drain with an absurd, outrageous lie? A lie in front of all the GMs who can verify all of this information easily?

This is the truth. I hope a resolution can be found, but as none were forthcoming privately, this was the only avenue to get the issue resolved promptly.

Raenys, what say you? Please explain yourself, and what you plan on doing to rectify this injustice. I don't think you're a bad person or did it out of malice, but then why ignore my messages?

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Yeah you're a cool guy and you got a high level character.

Hit me up with your main (Arcade) when I'm online (Skar or Drakar) I've got a weapon lying around slightly better than a weighted axe you may like to use (included a weighted axe).

I'm not sure what the dispute is, but I'm sure you can work things out without making a scene.
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:49 AM
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Yeah you're a cool guy
I sincerely don't want anyone banned or other such nonsense. Especially knowing how much time and effort Raenys has put into his cleric. Now that the issue has been made public, I'm 100% confident a resolution will be found.
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:50 AM
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Samwise, Colgate, Smedy, please keep your uninformative opinions to yourself, Azrael has had just as many (if not more) account stripping scandals. These are all actions of individuals, not a guild as an entity and the Nihilum edict is against this sort of behaviour.

It wasn't long ago when your guild was howling Nizzar banned for RMT, even though our officers were logging on his account to borrow items in his absence. Rather than trashing up a thread, try to be productive.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:09 AM
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Good thread
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:31 AM
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Do both raid guilds require their members to give leadership their account info?
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:33 AM
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So here's your full story:

name itemid name type long_name ts **This is Raenys dropping all the gear**
OP'S TOON 1623 Sash of the Dragonborn 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:24.000000
OP'S TOON 11902 Sarnak Emblazened Tabard 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:24.000000
OP'S TOON 17880 Large Sewing Kit 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:24.000000
OP'S TOON 14699 Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:24.000000
OP'S TOON 6693 Rod of Lamentation 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:24.000000
OP'S TOON 1409 Hooded Black Cloak 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:24.000000
OP'S TOON 2330 Lizardskin Tribal Mask 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:24.000000
OP'S TOON 14699 Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:24.000000
OP'S TOON 14701 Black Sapphire Electrum Earring 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:24.000000
OP'S TOON 17005 Backpack 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:21.000000
OP'S TOON 4412 Mithril Greaves 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:21.000000
OP'S TOON 14679 Platinum Fire Wedding Ring 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:21.000000
OP'S TOON 14679 Platinum Fire Wedding Ring 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:21.000000
OP'S TOON 14701 Black Sapphire Electrum Earring 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:21.000000
OP'S TOON 10147 White Gold Necklace 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:21.000000
OP'S TOON 4411 Mithril Vambraces 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:21.000000
OP'S TOON 16868 Spyglass 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:21.000000
OP'S TOON 14534 10 Dose Blood of the Wolf 0 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:33:21.000000


name itemid name type long_name ts **This is Raenys picking up all the gear**
Churm 17005 Backpack 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:07.000000
Churm 4412 Mithril Greaves 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:07.000000
Churm 14679 Platinum Fire Wedding Ring 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:07.000000
Churm 14679 Platinum Fire Wedding Ring 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:07.000000
Churm 14701 Black Sapphire Electrum Earring 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:07.000000
Churm 10147 White Gold Necklace 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:07.000000
Churm 4411 Mithril Vambraces 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:07.000000
Churm 16868 Spyglass 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:07.000000
Churm 14534 10 Dose Blood of the Wolf 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:07.000000
Churm 17880 Large Sewing Kit 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:04.000000
Churm 14699 Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:04.000000
Churm 6693 Rod of Lamentation 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:04.000000
Churm 1409 Hooded Black Cloak 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:04.000000
Churm 2330 Lizardskin Tribal Mask 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:04.000000
Churm 14699 Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:04.000000
Churm 14701 Black Sapphire Electrum Earring 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:04.000000
Churm 11902 Sarnak Emblazened Tabard 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:04.000000
Churm 1623 Sash of the Dragonborn 1 Rivervale 2014-02-27 00:37:04.000000



Character1 TradedTo Character2 Platinum1 Platinum2 uid name itemid ts **Here is the second strip, done by trade through a toon Ephedrine deleted after the transfer**
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 1 Lexicon 17903 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 2 Deepwater Helm 4543 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 3 Skull-shaped Barbute 4301 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 4 A Weighted Axe 11543 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 5 Bloodstained Mantle 3309 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 6 Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet 14646 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 7 Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet 14646 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 8 Runed Bone Fork 7314 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 9 White Dragon Tooth 11605 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 10 Gatorscale Sleeves 2458 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000
EPHEDRINE 2 OP'S TOON 0 0 11 10 Dose Blood of the Wolf 14534 2014-03-18 00:58:49.000000


Character1 TradedTo Character2 Platinum1 Platinum2 uid name itemid ts
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 1 Lexicon 17903 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 2 Deepwater Helm 4543 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 3 Skull-shaped Barbute 4301 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 4 A Weighted Axe 11543 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 5 Bloodstained Mantle 3309 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 6 Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet 14646 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 7 Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet 14646 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 8 Runed Bone Fork 7314 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 9 White Dragon Tooth 11605 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 10 Gatorscale Sleeves 2458 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000
Churm 2 EPHEDRINE 0 0 11 10 Dose Blood of the Wolf 14534 2014-03-18 01:06:35.000000



So what does this all mean?

Churm = Raenys

EPHEDRINE = A transfer toon on Ephedrine's account. Didn't look to see if it was actually Ephedrine assisting in the transfer.

Raenys Logged into OP's Shadow Knight, drop transferred off some of his gear on the 27th of February. Then in mid-March, Raenys again logged into OP's Shadow Knight and took the rest of the items (leaving a few worthless trinkets on the toon) by transferring them through a transfer toon on Ephedrine's account (that character was then deleted), and then to his Enchanter, Churm. Raenys then deleted the SK.

Stop. Sharing. Account. Information.

OP, if you want your SK restored, there are still a few items (though admittedly they are not worth much) left on the character. Petition in the petition/exploit forum and we will restore it.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:38 AM
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This game turns people wicked. I've seen it dozens of times. Some of these people would slit their own mothers throat for a CoF. Samwise has been stripped twice and I've only loaned him out to a handful of people. RIP all those illusions pots [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll say this about account sharing though. The problem really lies when people you share an account with share the account with someone else. Soon 14 people will have your infos and all accountability is out the window.

Until nilly removes the Graverobber and other account strippers, I can't help but think that kind of behavior is encouraged and rewarded.
Brobb, Sektors, Qazzaz, Chewie, Karsten have all had my info for wizard,druid,rogue. nothing ever went missing.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:39 AM
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Wow. Why do people steal items like this?

Like what would your mothers think... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:40 AM
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Do both raid guilds require their members to give leadership their account info?
No, this is not a requirement in Nihilum.
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Old 05-16-2014, 01:41 AM
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if this person was in my guild i'd be strongly advocating for them to get booted
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