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Old 08-10-2010, 07:53 PM
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not impressed.

Im here until Star Wars comes out... if that sucks ill be back... until jumpgate comes out... if that sucks ill be back.... or I get bant
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Old 08-10-2010, 07:57 PM
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Vanguard was a great game with lots of potential.. brad just fucked up. he thought people would upgrade their shit to play his game. Times changed... more options now. blizzard made their game ready to play on any system.

The funding and a few of Brads errors due to his Ego is what fucked up Vanguard... it really is a great game, the launch screwed it horribly. it was over a year under developed.

Its a shame too... Brad had the chance to create his vision again and it failed. I doubt he will ever have that chance again and we all love his vision as we play this emulated version of it.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:06 PM
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Sorry to be the cynic but the magic MMO that everyones praying for will not exist. Games are not played the same as they were 10 years ago. This server is great, and playing through as a classic experience is a blast, but you will never find a new game to challenge you like this one did.

You're all experienced gamers now, and as such, you've ruined your future in finding a good game with the qualities most of you are looking for. You all know the mechanics of MMO's. There is only so much you can do with this concept before you're branching out so far that it's hardly even in the same genre. Information is easily spread, and no one likes to be out of the loop, so you seek it. That alone leaves only the exploration of a game world, most of which is also online and found fairly easy.

Find ways to enjoy new games, the ones that cater to an easier crowd, enjoy playing on this server, or give up.

Personally, I think vanilla WoW had it going on. Some fun instances to group in, pretty decent raiding, a few global targets, and mediocre PvP. Was it EQ? No. But gaming is dead. It's 2010 and every game is going to be easy to most people. You're playing on nostalgia, not challenge. Don't kid yourselves.
Ehh, I've heard this argument before, but frankly I think it's a cop-out. One that's used by Sony too, fwiw.

A hardcore game that is every bit as challenging/frustrating/immersive/addicting to us (experienced gamers) as EQ was to us in 1999 - is certainly achievable if anybody had the balls to try it.

It hasn't been done because everybody is still trying to "be like WoW" in order to make $$$ - and failing miserably for the most part because the market is flooded with them.

It would be ironic if Blizzard were the first to "get it" and be the ones to make the first true hardcore fantasy MMO since 1999. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:14 PM
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Speaking of Brad Mcquaid looks like he started another company that is focusing on making casual PC games.

Anyone up for some Bejeweled?

www.bradmcquaid.com
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:20 PM
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It would be ironic if Blizzard were the first to "get it" and be the ones to make the first true hardcore fantasy MMO since 1999. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I thought that was called "Diablo 2"
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:41 PM
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its literally a one or two small paragraph article where smedley states "it'll be a 'reboot' of eq1 with extra lore, core class design, updated combat, and stylized graphics"

with like 2 concept art pictures, or 1 veeeeery early alpha shot
...So like EQII were they rediscover all of EQI each expansion? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-10-2010, 10:44 PM
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Vanguard was a great game with lots of potential.. brad just fucked up. he thought people would upgrade their shit to play his game. Times changed... more options now. blizzard made their game ready to play on any system.

The funding and a few of Brads errors due to his Ego is what fucked up Vanguard... it really is a great game, the launch screwed it horribly. it was over a year under developed.

Its a shame too... Brad had the chance to create his vision again and it failed. I doubt he will ever have that chance again and we all love his vision as we play this emulated version of it.
Very true. I feel bad the game's launch was so poor. The fact it got rushed is sad. I think it would have been what EQ was intended to become post-Velious.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:28 PM
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Can't fault Blizzard for torturing their audience because they tend to release games after they've had tons of coats of refining and polish.
Truth. I had a friend working at Blizzard a while back and got into the friends and family alpha test for WoW. The game was already less buggy than Live EQ and this was late 2003 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll try this EQ Next since at this point in my life I don't have time to really play EQ classic as it's meant to be played. Between that, The Old Republic, and whatever else is coming out I should be able to find something fun for casual play.
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Old 08-11-2010, 12:05 AM
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Sorry to be the cynic but the magic MMO that everyones praying for will not exist. Games are not played the same as they were 10 years ago. This server is great, and playing through as a classic experience is a blast, but you will never find a new game to challenge you like this one did.
This. There will never be another 'Everquest circa 1999-2000'.

The circumstances surrounding EQ when it came out were perfect for hardcore gamers like us to fall head-over-heels for a game like it. MMO gaming was a brand new thing for most everyone at that time and the large open-ended game that EQ was took advantage of the MMO game type perfectly.

Most of us didn't even know how to play a game like EQ when it came out. I certainly didn't. I did not power through anything during those first two years. I can't count how many times I died just trying to explore the seemingly limitless world of EQ. I spent probably 1/10th of my time leveling and the rest of it just trying to figure out what was possible with such a large and open-ended game. In hindsight now of course I know all that exploring I did was pointless and if I wanted to really 'beat' the game as it were, I should have just been leveling. Now I know that and that's why the thrill is gone.

I just can't see a phenomenon like classic EQ ever happening again. Project 1999 is probably the closest we'll ever get because of the home-grown non-profit aspect of it except that we're all jaded to the experience now so there's no sense of awe that made EQ so enticing and addicting in the first place.

Plus, we'll all be micro-payment'd to death if the accountants have anything to do with it.
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Old 08-11-2010, 05:47 PM
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Vanguard was a great game with lots of potential.. brad just fucked up. he thought people would upgrade their shit to play his game. Times changed... more options now. blizzard made their game ready to play on any system.

The funding and a few of Brads errors due to his Ego is what fucked up Vanguard... it really is a great game, the launch screwed it horribly. it was over a year under developed.

Its a shame too... Brad had the chance to create his vision again and it failed. I doubt he will ever have that chance again and we all love his vision as we play this emulated version of it.
His big mistake was biting off more than he could chew. He admitted this in not-so-many words. "Let's make an EVEN BIGGER WORLD!!!" OMGdz! But as is painfully evident in the new Freeport...bigger means emptier. Vanguard never found the time to add content / npcs / storyline to the vast majority of the landscape.

Bigger is not always better.

The memory leaks; the occasional falling underneath the world; the hardware requirements did not cause me to stop playing. The linear questline requiring mere clicks was lame. What Vanguard did very well was the game mechanics. As a member of a group; you can see in an instance exactly where your groupmates are in relation to you; and exactly where aggro'd mobs are and who they are aggroing.
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