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Old 02-06-2014, 01:51 AM
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I have never once heard any person say "man, this sucks" that weren't throwing that out there to a male friend or acquaintance.

Btw, can i say "male" or is that discriminatory too?
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:51 AM
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eat citation Lron...

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=man



man (n.) Look up man at Dictionary.com
Old English man, mann "human being, person (male or female); brave man, hero; servant, vassal," from Proto-Germanic *manwaz (cf. Old Saxon, Swedish, Dutch, Old High German man, German Mann, Old Norse mağr, Danish mand, Gothic manna "man"), from PIE root *man- (1) "man" (cf. Sanskrit manuh, Avestan manu-, Old Church Slavonic mozi, Russian muzh "man, male").

Plural men (German Männer) shows effects of i-mutation. Sometimes connected to root *men- "to think" (see mind), which would make the ground sense of man "one who has intelligence," but not all linguists accept this. Liberman, for instance, writes, "Most probably man 'human being' is a secularized divine name" from Mannus [cf. Tacitus, "Germania," chap. 2], "believed to be the progenitor of the human race."

So I am as he that seythe, `Come hyddr John, my man.' [1473]

Sense of "adult male" is late (c.1000); Old English used wer and wif to distinguish the sexes, but wer began to disappear late 13c. and was replaced by man. Universal sense of the word remains in mankind and manslaughter. Similarly, Latin had homo "human being" and vir "adult male human being," but they merged in Vulgar Latin, with homo extended to both senses. A like evolution took place in Slavic languages, and in some of them the word has narrowed to mean "husband." PIE had two stems: *uiHro "freeman" (cf. Sanskrit vira-, Lithuanian vyras, Latin vir, Old Irish fer, Gothic wair) and *hner "man," a title more of honor than *uiHro (cf. Sanskrit nar-, Armenian ayr, Welsh ner, Greek aner).

MAN TRAP. A woman's commodity. ["Dictionary of Buckish Slang, University Wit, and Pickpocket Eloquence," London, 1811]

Man also was in Old English as an indefinite pronoun, "one, people, they." The chess pieces so called from c.1400. As an interjection of surprise or emphasis, first recorded c.1400, but especially popular from early 20c. Man-about-town is from 1734; the Man "the boss" is from 1918. To be man or mouse "be brave or be timid" is from 1540s. Men's Liberation first attested 1970.

At the kinges court, my brother, Ech man for himself. [Chaucer, "Knight's Tale," c.1386]

man (v.) Look up man at Dictionary.com
Old English mannian "to furnish (a fort, ship, etc.) with a company of men," from man (n.). Meaning "to take up a designated position on a ship" is first recorded 1690s. Meaning "behave like a man, act with courage" is from c.1400. To man (something) out is from 1660s. Related: Manned; manning.

tons of meanings, many forgotten, I suppose were not talking about "human beings" or "furnishing ships"
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Old English man, mann "human being, person (male or female)
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Also heard people say man all over the place when not referring to any particular individual, both in popular recent media and in person.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:54 AM
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What do you prefer to be called? I will then look that word up and show you all its different meanings throughout time.

Context and culture.

Maybe im out of line and insensitive for thinking "man" means what it does in science, anatomy and biology books at this time in our society.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:57 AM
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Try to change the meaning of the word by all means...its a fruitless and pointless endeavor imo, but have at it. But it try to do it by persuasion and not by force.

Try not to be a pretentious douche also when someone like me refuses to adopt the idea that the word should change meanings. Im an ally in the fight against all things puritanical but im not wrong on this.
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The word science uses, the layword, term is, male. AFAIK there is no distinction made for genus, as to sex.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:58 AM
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You have no problem with identifying as a male, but not a man?
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I'm not forcing anything upon you lron, interpret my language how you see fit )

You seem a bit rustled.

You can call me a snowflake.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:59 AM
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You have no problem with identifying as a male, but not a man?
See above post, I was clarifying your question in regards to sciences definition of "man".

It has none.
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