40 Nihilum showed up for Nagafen years after box released - No Variance killing Red99

[Xantille]

Originally Posted by Dacuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

numbers game on a weekday morning.

[Sektor]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are completely delusional if you think the population would explode even if these changes were enabled. Where would these people come from? Do you think there are 200 people sitting here waiting on variance to be enabled so they can start a character?

Variance isn't going to do anything. The same people getting the loot now will get it with or without variance. It just baffles me why RD would even want it. You can't get a mob now when you can organize to contest it for literally a month if you wanted, and you think somehow that if it spawns randomly you'll be able to organize in time to do it? You're asking for this out of pure spite. You want to make it suck for Nihilum as much as possible since you can't do it with the means already implemented (PVP). The staff either A) doesn't care or B) sees right through your bullshit.

At least HB is being reasonable with his requests, asking not for Nihilum to be essentially punished for their domination but for another set of random repops on the raid targets. Last I checked variance was dramatically reduced on blue because it ruined the game for a lot of people. Why the fuck would they enable it here?

Maybe part of the reason Nihilum is unwilling to do anything is because your methods? If I remember correctly there was at least talk in the beginning of allowing RD to take some raid targets? Now its thread after thread asking the GMs to step in. What happens if they enable variance and it does absolutely nothing to change the situation (which is wouldn't)? Are you just going to start making posts to raid suspend Nihilum just so RD can have the shit uncontested? It's funny as shit to me really, you talk about how you want to compete and PVP but you want the GMs to put methods in place where you can stealth a mob without having to contest for it. All the PVP you could possibly want is right there for you. Sorry that the deck is stacked against you but you're taking a 3 month old guild that isn't even half filled with 60s, isn't even in full pre-kunark planar loot against a 2 year old guild knee deep in VP geared alts.

Velious is in a few months. Maybe work on getting your guild stocked with enough 60s with their spells to start contesting the extra 50 raid mobs that are about to get added. There are raid targets on 8 hour timers that drop near BiS loot. There will be plenty to get done and plenty of loot to keep members interested.

HB tried a different method where Red Dawn and Nilly were on friendly terms. I was in nilly during this. Nizzar wanted full control on how Red Dawn was. If any little thing happened nizzar would threaten them grief. This happened about 10 times in one month. Then nilly decided to go grief mode because Red Dawn took naggy one day. Nizzar is a tyrant and he benefits from his members greatly which is why he doesn't work. Its why he monopolies as many pixels as he can. This is not a game to him, its business.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sektor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HB tried a different method where Red Dawn and Nilly were on friendly terms. I was in nilly during this. Nizzar wanted full control on how Red Dawn was. If any little thing happened nizzar would threaten them grief. This happened about 10 times in one month. Then nilly decided to go grief mode because Red Dawn took naggy one day. Nizzar is a tyrant and he benefits from his members greatly which is why he doesn't work. Its why he monopolies as many pixels as he can. This is not a game to him, its business.

Simulated repops solve about 99% of the problems with this server instantly. Literally the only argument is it "floods" the economy, as if a server with 200 azure robes and donal bp's needs to be worried about being "flooded."

[Sektor]

Originally Posted by Sektor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HB tried a different method where Red Dawn and Nilly were on friendly terms. I was in nilly during this. Nizzar wanted full control on how Red Dawn was. If any little thing happened nizzar would threaten them grief. This happened about 10 times in one month. Then nilly decided to go grief mode because Red Dawn took naggy one day. Nizzar is a tyrant and he benefits from his members greatly which is why he doesn't work. Its why he monopolies as many pixels as he can. This is not a game to him, its business.

[Tubben]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys are completely delusional if you think the population would explode even if these changes were enabled.

Who said explode? You use this word to exaggerate.

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Variance isn't going to do anything. The same people getting the loot now will get it with or without variance. It just baffles me why RD would even want it. You can't get a mob now when you can organize to contest it for literally a month if you wanted, and you think somehow that if it spawns randomly you'll be able to organize in time to do it? You're asking for this out of pure spite. You want to make it suck for Nihilum as much as possible since you can't do it with the means already implemented (PVP). The staff either A) doesn't care or B) sees right through your bullshit.

Variance will do or can do something. Because

a.) Currently RD is not able to get enough people while 10 am est online on an workday, nihilum is somehow able to do this.

b.) even if RD would be able to do this, they cant compete 40 vs 40 just because of the gear difference between both guilds.

With Variance RD will atleast have the chance to snipe an mob because Nihilum is unprepared. Currently you are 100% prepared for the raidmobs, and with the geardifference no one do really have an chance vs nihilum.

And the last sentence of your, that they only want this to make Nihilum as sucky as possible is the sentence i really startet to laugh irl. You are just accustomed to be the guild who get all the loot, because however you did it, you get your guild online to a time, no one normaly play so you get the mobs uncontested.

And if you would really like to fight over the mobs, where is the problem if the mob do spawn to an different time where other guilds have more members online ? Chances that you win the pvp are big, simple because gear makes the difference.

But then your guildmembers DO have to be online to other times during the week. But i do undestand that you dont want this. You are just got used to not having any competition for mobs. Actually this makes you very blue.

I wish my english would be better ;P

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Tubben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who said explode? You use this word to exaggerate.



Variance will do or can do something. Because

a.) Currently RD is not able to get enough people while 10 am est online on an workday, nihilum is somehow able to do this.

b.) even if RD would be able to do this, they cant compete 40 vs 40 just because of the gear difference between both guilds.

With Variance RD will atleast have the chance to snipe an mob because Nihilum is unprepared. Currently you are 100% prepared for the raidmobs, and with the geardifference no one do really have an chance vs nihilum.

And the last sentence of your, that they only want this to make Nihilum as sucky as possible is the sentence i really startet to laugh irl. You are just accustomed to be the guild who get all the loot, because however you did it, you get your guild online to a time, no one normaly play so you get the mobs uncontested.

And if you would really like to fight over the mobs, where is the problem if the mob do spawn to an different time where other guilds have more members online ? Chances that you win the pvp are big, simple because gear makes the difference.

But then your guildmembers DO have to be online to other times during the week. But i do undestand that you dont want this. You are just got used to not having any competition for mobs. Actually this makes you very blue.

I wish my english would be better ;P

So you want to shit up the entire raid scene, forcing people poopsock and do all sorts of shenanigans for the off chance that RD is able to mobilize a kill maybe a raid target a month? Then in your next post you'll say how this will attract new players somehow. I'm sure there will be dozens of people ready to line up for 8 hour poopsock level 1 ranger battles in SolB.

This flawed logic that somehow a raid target spawning randomly will lead to competition is baffling to me. You are perfectly able to contest every single raid target in the game now, you're just not ready yet. The truly laughable part is that you want variance so you have a shot to kill a raid target uncontested before Nihilum can mobilize yet you stick to this variance=competition bs.

[Gaffin 7.0]

poster above me is clueless, different spawn times isnt poopsocking retard

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Gaffin 7.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

poster above me is clueless, different spawn times isnt poopsocking retard

Not sure if serious or dum. Read what I quoted in my above post he was very clearly talking about variance which is exactly why you poopsock.

I've already said in this thread I wouldn't mind simulated patch days once or twice a month, not to add extra spawns but to alter when the repops happen during the day. Maybe for a few weeks its 3AM. Then the next few weeks its 2PM, the next month is at 9PM, whatever.

[Snufz]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you want to shit up the entire raid scene, forcing people poopsock and do all sorts of shenanigans for the off chance that RD is able to mobilize a kill maybe a raid target a month? Then in your next post you'll say how this will attract new players somehow. I'm sure there will be dozens of people ready to line up for 8 hour poopsock level 1 ranger battles in SolB.

This flawed logic that somehow a raid target spawning randomly will lead to competition is baffling to me. You are perfectly able to contest every single raid target in the game now, you're just not ready yet. The truly laughable part is that you want variance so you have a shot to kill a raid target uncontested before Nihilum can mobilize yet you stick to this variance=competition bs.

not sure if Srs.

[Tubben]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you want to shit up the entire raid scene, forcing people poopsock and do all sorts of shenanigans for the off chance that RD is able to mobilize a kill maybe a raid target a month?

Since 'entire raid scene' = Nihilum - Yes.

Not because of this, but to change it.

You even admit that RD is unable to get a shot on an raidmob, because you keep them down. If you need them or not.