Rogean be our PVP Savior...

[PhelanKA]

Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not being able to kill darkies on my own team was always a thing that would haunt me on TZ. Rallos/ 8 lvl range would be a cool deal. When everyone started X-teaming, I'd have to rely on friends to drop the darkies as I sat there watching a lot of the time after either killing the lighty teams, or chasing them off.

Any rule set has its benefits/ downfalls. For purely PvP purposes, I'd go with a rallos/ 8 lvl range though if it were to happen. Item loot/ no doesn't matter so much. I only made hotkeys to bag the important shit usually. The whole system becomes obsolete in one way or another once Velious becomes active and people start getting a lot of quested/ high end no drop gear.

By 8 level range you mean the original +/- 4, right?

[Kastro]

Originally Posted by Overcast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, I'm not a huge fan of item loot personally - coin loot was my preference. I just didn't have the time to go after replacement items nor did I really want to just run and start bagging gear.

Because half the people you kill, will have bagged all the good stuff anyway.

Coin loot - well, not much you can do with the coins.

Team PVP - had it's ups and downs on Vallon Zek - one of the reasons I left Vallon and went to Cazic-Thule was because... well, to raid, they started playing it like a blue server - it was no longer team vs. team, it was teams of Dark and Light banded together to smack people down they just didn't care for - basically anyone not in certain guilds.

It turned to a guild vs. guild kinda thing - which was ok, but the dynamic of not being able to attack people on your own team in this situation would get downright annoying, with some Dark Elf cleric healing the heck out of the Gnome you were trying to take down - that just wasn't cool...

Yeah I agree with the Team thing.. Its why I left Tallon Zek.. Hardcoded teams.. Maybe Have Hardcoded Teams.. But if you are in a guild that X teams.. you get coded red and can group/heal with anyone that is red...

[ukaking]

Gotta go with the Rallos Zek ruleset, no doubt!

[Kastro]

Originally Posted by PhelanKA [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By 8 level range you mean the original +/- 4, right?

the 4 level range is too exploitable... it really should be 8 to 10.... to avoid most oor healing games... and in raid/highly contested zones there should be no level range... for example.. any Plane, SolB, Guk Bottom, permafrost..ect ect.. Keeps the gayness level down.

And with players being able to start on a hardcoded team.. btu being able to switch to red and their guild being their team... that would minimize most of the exploitable issues.

[jeffd]

unfortunately, even if the P99 people made a PVP server (assuming they had the money/time/will to do so) it would never come close to being what the old PVP servers were like, for two simple reasons: the server would be all wolves and no sheep, and everyone would use the MQ autobagger.

imo all the reds on P99 should just talk to a PoD and go permared. looks like there's enough of us that it'd be quality.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by jeffd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

unfortunately, even if the P99 people made a PVP server (assuming they had the money/time/will to do so) it would never come close to being what the old PVP servers were like...

I have a feeling we'd see the very first all-necromancer server.



...could 50 lvl 50 necros down a raid target?..

[Kastro]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a feeling we'd see the very first all-necromancer server.



...could 50 lvl 50 necros down a raid target?..

Thats one of the biggest misconceptions about PVP... Necros do well// no doubt.. a Well played and geared necro is just sick.. But a Balanced group / Guild does best...

You need Tanks/ Mellee DPS/ Heals/ Run Speed buff/ crowd control/ Ports/ Spell burst DPS / and Snare to have an overall winning team/Guild.

And of course a Main Assist calling targets... on the other server in <Heresy> we had solid boxed healers.. a few main healers... a few Spell DPs... but mostly a Melee/Hybrid assist train... and for the most part we ran the server...

Well run Assist Train>anything else


and Ive seen the same thing on Rallos Zek.. and Sullon Zek.. It was the Balanced Teams/GUilds that are able to Hold territory and take down mobs... thus getting better gear and then running the server...

The vast majority of the Necros are Newbs (with a few very well played exceptions) and the druids are naked port bots ( they get more kills than the necros imo)

[Zordana]

Originally Posted by Aerist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not meant to diminish the population of the p99 server. If you enjoy pve by all means it's the perfect server. I think Rogean could make one hell of a pvp server as well, expanding the interest to another group of people. We only have one option right now, and we all know that it is dead. Be our Emu savior and give us a PVP home....

Sincerely,

Lots of inactive EQ'ers

aswell? this is NILBOGS SERVER!

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Kastro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats one of the biggest misconceptions about PVP... Necros do well// no doubt.. a Well played and geared necro is just sick.. But a Balanced group / Guild does best...

You need Tanks/ Mellee DPS/ Heals/ Run Speed buff/ crowd control/ Ports/ Spell burst DPS / and Snare to have an overall winning team/Guild.

And of course a Main Assist calling targets... on the other server in <Heresy> we had solid boxed healers.. a few main healers... a few Spell DPs... but mostly a Melee/Hybrid assist train... and for the most part we ran the server...

Well run Assist Train>anything else


and Ive seen the same thing on Rallos Zek.. and Sullon Zek.. It was the Balanced Teams/GUilds that are able to Hold territory and take down mobs... thus getting better gear and then running the server...

The vast majority of the Necros are Newbs (with a few very well played exceptions) and the druids are naked port bots ( they get more kills than the necros imo)

The reason it turns out this way is because the only people who can afford to make the other classes to be in well rounded guilds are the people who play 24/7 and always have access to a full group. The casual player can't go lfg by them self as a warrior for an hour or they will get ganked. The thing is the necro can be self sufficient and still fend people off solo, or get away at least.

So when you say newbs play necros, thats incorrect. These players easily have as much skill and actually still have a decent chance at taking on those better geared other classes since the necros spells are harder to resist than most classes. It's just if someone is more of a casual player a necro is the perfect class to pick. Not everyone can play 24/7, even if they did in the past and have all the know how of the hardcore players presently playing.

To say the necros on pvp servers are newbs is just dumb, they just don't always have the safety bubble of having all the numbers in a hardcore guild. The Necro is arguably the best PvP class around, why wouldn't an experienced player take advantage of that. The newbie on a pvp server is the person who plays casually and plays a warrior on a pvp server.. and runs around with a LFG tag and no guild.

[Overcast]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and runs around with a LFG tag and no guild.

"Looking for Gank"

lol