Bag Limit per Guild - Page 6

Tasslehofp99 · #1 01-22-2014, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tasslehof, this conversation was extremely civil until you showed up and called someone a retard. Why don't you sit this one out or have someone more intelligent and less inflammatory post on your behalf? This isn't RnF.

How about you stop trying to stir shit up?

quido · #2 01-22-2014, 04:15 PM

Stir shit up? I have a legitimate grievance that I am seeking to discuss civilly and hopefully resolve diplomatically. If you don't want to be a part of that process, why don't you take a hike?

Geofizzle · #3 01-22-2014, 04:01 PM

Cmon now Tass, this isn't about personal insults it's server chat and we're only trying to get some clarification on the rules since your guild is stretching them. Please be civil.

Tasslehofp99 · #4 01-22-2014, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Geofizzle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cmon now Tass, this isn't about personal insults it's server chat and we're only trying to get some clarification on the rules since your guild is stretching them. Please be civil.

It's not an insult if you're truly acting stupid and ignoring the things people are posting just to go and post an ignorant response meant to stir more shit up.

Tasslehofp99 · #5 01-22-2014, 04:18 PM

My issue comes from the fact that you're basically accusing FE/IB of cheating.

We are two separate guilds who work together, or apart when possible.

You compared this in the first page to you creating an alt guild to get more loot, something that we don't do and something the GM's said would be against the rules.

Stop trying to make it seem as if we're breaking rules when in fact we've made every effort possible to follow the rules set out for us.

quido · #6 01-22-2014, 04:22 PM

Tasslehof, your reading comprehension is atrocious - do you even read all the posts in a thread before you comment yourself, or do you just skim the thread looking for people who piss you off and respond to them? I clearly stated that I knew there was no malice involved, and I'm fairly certain that everyone would agree with this. Nonetheless, the situation as it stands isn't fair and it deserves to be discussed. I'm sorry you don't like it.

Frieza_Prexus · #7 01-22-2014, 04:34 PM

There's a valid point here. Allowing guilds to co-raid to reap the benefits of separate identities is potentially problematic. It's not that this IS being abused, but that it present a very real hole. How do you stop one guild from splintering while honoring guilds that are still separate yet occasionally co-raid?

There's no perfect way to do it, but I think this might be fair:

Any guilds that raid jointly will be treated as one for a period of 7 days as measured from the death of the last mob they killed.

Tasslehofp99 · #8 01-22-2014, 04:41 PM

Do you guys realize on the last ffa repop IB/FE only killed 2 mobs collectively outside of VP? That would be as if they raided as one guild, anyway.

where is this coming from?

Handull · #9 01-22-2014, 07:41 PM

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Do you guys realize on the last ffa repop IB/FE only killed 2 mobs collectively outside of VP? That would be as if they raided as one guild, anyway.

where is this coming from?

For once Tass is right on target

NextGenesis88 · #10 01-22-2014, 09:36 PM

I don't think the GMs would want to penalize people for teaming up or making alliances. It's possible that one of the guilds that team up may get nothing for the kill besides the satisfaction of helping and seeing another raid mob. That's all up to the guilds on what type of agreements they set up. By teaming up it's not the same reward and situation as fighting themselves and if this is pure jealousy of the fact that they are simply seeing a couple extra raid mobs then by all means any other guilds can do the same. I am not seeing the issue here, but I do see where you're coming from. They aren't automatically getting loot and all that just being invited to team up and help. I don't see anything game breaking or anything that's giving them much of an advantage over anyone else aside from seeing 1 or 2 more raid mobs. I don't think they want to control the guilds to that extent... there needs to be room for guilds to work together, make alliances and dictate agreements. I can't imagine they would ever say they can't raid themselves because they helped another guild get the kill. If they had a problem with this then surely they would have had a rule against it and surely they talked about it as I couldn't see how the alliance of FE/IB would slip their minds. Just my thoughts. Not saying the discussion should end or anything and maybe they can chime in on what I am saying and if that's their position. I don't raid yet and don't talk much about it so it would feel pretty good if I got it right. If I am wrong then okay, bring on the flames I guess, but looking in from the outside, this is just what came to my mind, but just trying to add at least something to the discussion. (Maybe they do get to loot with the same chances, I don't know, but still that should be up to them on making an agreement right?)

Sorry for the WoT and thank you if you made it to the end!