RnF is boring today, let's talk about Bob guild

[log]

I see some bullshit calling doljon tier 2.1

All 6 T2 guilds would love to work out a fair (and my ideas are quite easy) system with the GMs on what makes ANYONE available to go from T2.1 to T2, and join in our agreed rotation. (These are Phiren's ideas for a system of 2.1 -> 2.0, this has not been agreed upon by all Tier 2 guilds)

Some rules on joining the Tier 2 fun:
#1) You have to be a guild that was created over 60 days ago (obviously you need to show force for 60 days. No creating a guild today with 10 peopleand popping up out of nowhere in March with 30 shiny new 60s that no one has heard of or seen in 2 months)
#2) When you think you are ready to move from 2.1 to 2, we will give you a shot @ .. lets say Fay? You have 3 attempts to kill Fay. After 3rd attempt, it goes back to whoever was designated that mob in T2. You can try again next month after you regroup
#3) Any changes to this "Tier 2 Charter" need to pass a vote by super majority vote (75% +?)

[log]

Maybe other would be more inclined to either follow a rotation if there were some outlying rules on the forum as to how this tier 2 rotation would work? As far as I see on the forums the GM's have marked all tier 2 as FFA and nothing definitive set in stone regarding tier 2 rotation.

[The Situation]

You're just absolutely fucking retarded. How much hand-holding do you need here?

Originally Posted by log [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see some bullshit calling doljon tier 2.1

same thread:

Originally Posted by Sirken

at the present time, any guild that is not considered a Tier1 Guild, will automatically be considered a Tier2 Guild.

[The Situation]

Originally Posted by log [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe other would be more inclined to either follow a rotation if there were some outlying rules on the forum as to how this tier 2 rotation would work? As far as I see on the forums the GM's have marked all tier 2 as FFA and nothing definitive set in stone regarding tier 2 rotation.

Keep being a whiny bitch guild then and get no kills. Nobody gives a shit.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by Coolname [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

nothing to explain . . AG had "help" ... the only thing for debate is how much "help"

BDA pulled, that was it. We had a total of 10 or so there (less than 2 groups, including the pullers). We had heard AG needed help, but it turns out they had like 30 there. We stood to the side while they killed it, then ported out before loot even got linked.

Attempts (read: more than one, that's plural) were made to talk to Lord Bob / Doljo for the T2 group. The response was "not interested". T2 is happy fun time carebears high fives hugs and kisses for all that are interested in playing along. If you're not interested in playing along, see you during FFA, but be prepared for the other T2 guilds to work together to shut you down.

[khanable]

Originally Posted by log [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lord bob wasn't included in any of the "Raid Summit" chats, and don't think that's because we wanted nothing to do with it. We were told our input wasn't wanted. And this TIER 2 COALITION you speak of. Could you kindly link me to where on the forums there was an agreed rotation for tier 2 mobs? thanks

I know I reached out to Lord Bob to try and get them involved. I had no idea who leadership was, and the 3-4 people I contacted didn't know either, with two of them saying they don't care to apart of the council.

The one officer I do know of hasn't been online lately.

I know Loraen also reached out to you guys, and again, was met with cold shoulder.

To sit here and say you guys were not invited is just silly.

[The Situation]

It's entertaining as shit that Doljon wants competition, yet can't compete.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by log [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe other would be more inclined to either follow a rotation if there were some outlying rules on the forum as to how this tier 2 rotation would work? As far as I see on the forums the GM's have marked all tier 2 as FFA and nothing definitive set in stone regarding tier 2 rotation.

Most of the big Tier 2 guilds are working together sans-GMs to try to come up with something that everyone can enjoy for us casual scum. Get your leadership to take their head out of their ass, apologize for last night's bullshit, and join.

If your leaders continue to take the role of sociopath, don't be surprised when you get treated as such and boycotted.

[log]

No the gms specifically told us our input was not wanted at the guilds summit for whatever reason. And again i see no clear rotation agreement defined on the T2 repop proposal that was linked. Why would one agree to said "agreement" when nothing is outlined. How are we to know it is fair?

[log]

Originally Posted by The Situation [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe it's this thread right here:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=134148

This is about as definitive as a proposal regarding t2 rotation on that thread.

As for the Tier2 rotation: I don't think it will last as a rotation beyond today. If we don't know the time in advance, I could see The A-Team having anywhere from 5-20 players depending on the time of day and how people's schedules happen to work out. So I think the Tier2 rotation will become more of a 'play nice agreement': coordinate where we go to minimize wasted effort, don't leapfrog or other nonsense, try to give everyone a shot at the best targets, etc. Of course, there is one guild that has no intention of playing nice, which brings us to