Lock Server Until an Agreement is Met - Page 6

Alarti0001 · #51 12-31-2013, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Player driven, not TMOIBFE driven.

Who should drive then? The people who put in no effort on the raid scene?
Get over it. Alot of our proposals have given up a shit ton to the little guys for no advantage to ourselves. You can demand all you want, but I can guarantee you won't get everything you think you deserve.

Elements · #52 12-31-2013, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who should drive then? The people who put in no effort on the raid scene?
Get over it. Alot of our proposals have given up a shit ton to the little guys for no advantage to ourselves. You can demand all you want, but I can guarantee you won't get everything you think you deserve.

deserve should read "think you are entitled to"

Visual · #53 12-31-2013, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Elements [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Less raid heavy guilds holding the raid heavy guilds hostage by not even offering any sort of compromise is silly. If you truly want all the guilds to come together and form an agreement it shouldn't be the raid guilds "suspended" allowing the more casuals to hold them hostage. Lock the server until its hashed out if you truly think its possible for this group of entitled trolls to come to some sort of agreement.

Signed

Arteker · #54 12-31-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tmo/ib/fe raid whenever anything spawns. things do not go untracked and enough people answer their batphones at any time of the day in any time zone.

im tmo and i know fe ib pretty well and honestly thats false .oh sure easy to burn some targets but the real deal? no way lets be honest safest possible tmo killing time in vp mwas always euro mornings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yet we often struggled to kill shit like gore by those very same mornings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aaron · #55 12-31-2013, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is exactly my point. Catherin's definition of what a "raid guild" is has no value. Her majority isn't proven in the slightest and is moot at best.

I'm trying to get this figured out. Who are the raid guilds?

Catherin has a list, even if it's wrong.

Do you have one? Have you talked with the leadership of the guilds you consider raid guilds?

I only ask because it's been made clear that guilds need to come to an agreement. Catherin has talked with her list of raid guilds to come to a resolution.

I would think that, in order to talk with the leadership of raid guilds, you'd want to first figure out who they are.

Aaron · #56 12-31-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who should drive then? The people who put in no effort on the raid scene?
Get over it. Alot of our proposals have given up a shit ton to the little guys for no advantage to ourselves. You can demand all you want, but I can guarantee you won't get everything you think you deserve.

You should get it. All of it. You deserve it.

-Catherin- · #57 12-31-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is exactly my point. Catherin's definition of what a "raid guild" is has no value. Her majority isn't proven in the slightest and is moot at best.

I do believe we have been tasked with making the raid scene better for "everyone."

It's not your call to say who is qualified as a someone and who isn't.

Alarti0001 · #58 12-31-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm trying to get this figured out. Who are the raid guilds?

Catherin has a list, even if it's wrong.

Do you have one? Have you talked with the leadership of the guilds you consider raid guilds?

I only ask because it's been made clear that guilds need to come to an agreement. Catherin has talked with her list of raid guilds to come to a resolution.

I would think that, in order to talk with the leadership of raid guilds, you'd want to first figure out who they are.

She extended her lists and represented only THEIR interests. There wasn't concessions or compromise made.

Elements · #59 12-31-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do believe we have been tasked with making the raid scene better for "everyone."

It's not your call to say who is qualified as a someone and who isn't.

How do you propose to make the raid scene better for TMO my dear.

Alarti0001 · #60 12-31-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do believe we have been tasked with making the raid scene better for "everyone."

It's not your call to say who is qualified as a someone and who isn't.

OMG derp... that is what I am saying to you haha with your list of an arbitrary 9.