FE takes sky Sundays

[Tenlaar]

Somebody help me here. Surely this thread cannot contain blatant admissions of members of a raid suspended guild reforming a new guild with intentions of raiding during the suspension, right?

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't make the rules, Unbrella. Who's to say we don't decide what to do with our sky slot?

If you haven't noticed, the days of TMO dictating to the rest of the server how things work on P1999 -- and forcing the rest of us to play the way TMO decides the game should be played -- ARE OVER.

The agreement by the rest of the server is that the Sky rotation is worked out amongst ourselves. TMO lost their slot in the Sky rotation when they disbanded. To quote Alarti himself, TMO is gone. Gone. Non-existant. A non-existant guild cannot "own" a sky slot.

The slot goes up for grabs and we, as a server, work it out amongst ourselves how to work together and re-allocate the slot. Whatever that takes. Civilly and peacefully. No one is "making rules"... this rotation is based on agreements made between existing guilds.

This is exactly the sort of thing the devs are watching for. Are the remnants of TMO in other guilds going to start dictating things to the rest of the server again and risk the reputation of those guilds, or are they going to play nice?

You want a server first to end all server firsts? Help create a healthy raid scene with the rest of us going forward.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Lammy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm assuming our suspension doesn't apply anymore either then? Since there's no tag

Keep pissing Rogean off, Fabben. You're doing great! Nothing like spitting in the face of the guy who gives you the forum to act like a jackass for free, none-the-less.

[quido]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The slot goes up for grabs and we, as a server, work it out amongst ourselves how to work together and re-allocate the slot. Whatever that takes. Civilly and peacefully. No one is "making rules"... this rotation is based on agreements made between existing guilds.

Except you are making up rules as no contingency for a guild leaving the rotation / disbanding has ever been discussed. Not that I really give a shit, I just think it's interesting that you think you can dictate that we lost our slot. Let's see you try and stop anyone who wants to from raiding Sky on Sunday.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah and it sucks some good people got caught up in that. Best of luck to the innocent folks.

Agreed, and 'the innocent folks' are the vast majority.

Originally Posted by Lammyx

I'm assuming our suspension doesn't apply anymore either then? Since there's no tag

Just leave this thread before you embarrass yourself any more dude.

[Elements]

Originally Posted by Ella`Ella [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Keep pissing Rogean off, Fabben. You're doing great! Nothing like spitting in the face of the guy who gives you the forum to act like a jackass for free, none-the-less.

Mutually exclusive. You cant be a guild and suspended and not be a guild at the same time.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except you are making up rules as no contingency for a guild leaving the rotation / disbanding has ever been discussed. Not that I really give a shit, I just think it's interesting that you think you can dictate that we lost our slot. Let's see you try and stop anyone who wants to from raiding Sky on Sunday.

When previous guilds disbanded their sky day was put up for grabs and other guilds claimed it(see rapture,others). There is a precedent for the moves.

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except you are making up rules as no contingency for a guild leaving the rotation / disbanding has ever been discussed. Not that I really give a shit, I just think it's interesting that you think you can dictate that we lost our slot. Let's see you try and stop anyone who wants to from raiding Sky on Sunday.

It's not dictation of the rotation... It's observance of it.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Elements [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mutually exclusive. You cant be a guild and suspended and not be a guild at the same time.

Actually you can. The suspension applies to everyone who was guilded tmo at the time of the suspension. And yet tmo is not a guild now.

[Babayaaga]

Originally Posted by kbnexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So not only is it TMO's fault they didnt know about 2 cheaters, its the rest of the guild's fault too? Do you realize how hopelessly retarded you are>

When I read Rogean's post, I understood it to mean that the duping was a separate issue entirely from the raid scene. I think that's why you see the level of cooperation that has been going on with 90% of the p99 player base as it pertains to fairness and rotation.

I'm really not sure how the late TMO members are not understanding this. Had your GM decided not to explode your guild, in 2 weeks you would have had to adjust your approach to raiding approach to one that at least made an attempt to allow other guilds opportunity enjoy it on their own, without the unreasonable interfering activities that have forced everyone to behave in a way akin to neanderthals.

Move on. Adjust. Good players will undoubtedly find themselves in raiding situations that they can once again be a part of. The only difference is that as a server, we're trying to avoid monopolies not just in Sky, but everywhere.