Serious lack of tanks here

[Morningbreath]

Originally Posted by DrKvothe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure you should be equating these things. Spider silk isn't classic so let's abolish hybrid penalties!

I'm also not sure that you're wrong. Exp penalty is major reason not to roll hybrid tanks.

The P99 devs' logic is inconsistent. If you're going to cherrypick and include patches like spider silk stacking or being able to buy full stacks of items from merchants when those changes didn't go in until AFTER Luclin, how can you justify keeping hybrid exp penalties just because they were removed during the Velious era?

The hybrid exp penalty was removed in January 2001, less than 2 years after the game launched and during EQ's "golden" era.

At that time, Dark Age of Camelot was in production and the developers had already announced that there would be no hybrid exp penalties in that game. The EQ Live team magically came to their senses and followed suit almost immediately.

[SamwiseRed]

pets > tanks

[kaev]

Oh man, all the poor silks lost to ultra low skill tailors having to make swatches/threads in order to stack 'em. The shit (and I do mean shit, lol, suppressing bad memories since 1999!!) you don't recall until somebody has to go and remind you about it.

[Silent]

Never had a problem tanking in any exp group on my iksar monk with fungi, Seb, Solb, Chardok etc all just fine with a cleric, even a lazy one at that. Between mend and stonestance you can make due. As for tanks, It is probably what someone said a page back about ignoring the hybrid plate classes because of the penalties. Paladins and shadowknights are great for groups, SK can take instant aggro off anyone. Paladins can stun root heal and basically cheal(loh) every so often.

Obviously the red servers exp bonus is higher then blue, But that doesn't mean we level super fast, it still takes a lot of time and effort. The thing about the red server, We don't discriminate on hybrids. Sit around for 3-4 hours looking for a warrior getting no exp while that SK/Paladin looks for group. I don't play on blue, But when I log in my friends enchanter to chat up friends occasionally I constantly get messages for every 50+ zone in the game.

[skipdog]

Honestly, I've had many monks be my group's tank almost as often as a plate wearing class. Seems to work fine.

I still don't think there are as many warriors as one would imagine, but I think that comes down to the class being so 'vanilla' i.e. few abilities.

I do think that people are a bit too choosy when it comes to searching out classes for groups. You simply don't need a 'plate tank, cleric and enchanter' in every group yet tons of people think all 3 of those classes are necessary for a group to function at all. People really underestimate how effective 'non-standard' group compositions can really be.