Help non soloable classes

[Halladar]

Yeah I do.

Okay you made 4 levels a day? Played? that already means you played 12.5 days.

In 15 days.

Right now my thinking is:

1) You played a class that is unbalanced right now, mage or necro.

or
2) You had help from some higher level people.

or
3) Most probably you have grouped with people that played everquest with you before. I think it is possible, though I think you played more than 4 hours a day.

So, you never played eq with karsten (assuming for the moment, you aren't karsten) in eq before? The people you grouped with for the most part aren't people you knew from other times in eq?

Like I said. the story is screwy. You can get 16% (actually better than that I think, I got a level in oasis in about two or 3 hours the other day) an hour in certain spots where you can get steady safe pulls. Which is why all those people are in oasis. But it dries up when you level past that and you have to go to the next spot.

Even with only 168 or so (last time I checked) on this server, I haven't grouped more than once or twice with the same people. Make all the comments you want, but it isn't because I'm alienating people.

And another thing. You guys aren't camping to get equipment. If you have a melee, you are your equipment.

Like I said your story is screwy.

[yaaaflow]

My favorite part of this thread:

Originally Posted by Reiker

I rolled my character a month late... about November 3rd. Hit 50 around Nov. 18th. 90% grouping, usually with Karsten and others I've met in-game who knew how to play well. It can be done, mang.

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay let's break it down. I averaged about 4 levels / day (/played). That's 16% an hour. Do you really think gaining 16% of a level for every hour is that crazy?

4 levels per day = 1 level per 6 hours played. 6 hours x 49 levels = 294 hours total from 1 to 50.

18 - 3 = 15, so you did 1-50 in 15 days. 15 x 24 = 360 hours total.

294/360 means that for your just over 2 week period levelling you spent just under 82% of your time, or 19.6 hours a day on EQ.

Is that about accurate? Do you like, not sleep?

The numbers behind that are just mind boggling and hilarious to me at the same time.

edit: For fun lets say it was 18 days not 15. Then you only spent a much more reasonable 16 hours 20minutes a day on eq. I suppose you could fit in some sleeping time in that case.

[Reiker]

basically.

[Reiker]

Karsten is a melee. I had jboots, guise, camped a manastone, all before I was 50... I play a lot, but that's not the point. That's why I broke my leveling down to 16% / hour.

[Reiker]

We're not at that point. Like 2% of the population is at 50. When it gets worse, they may open up boxing. No point really getting worried about it.

[Dolalin]

I didn't say we were at that point.

I said we should plan what to do once we get there. Because it won't be long. A month or two at the outside.

Why not have the action plan ready now, and ready to go once the situation arises? We know it's coming. Why wait until the last possible minute? That's an ostrich mentality.

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't say we were at that point.

I said we should plan what to do once we get there. Because it won't be long. A month or two at the outside.

Why not have the action plan ready now, and ready to go once the situation arises? We know it's coming. Why wait until the last possible minute? That's an ostrich mentality.

Welcome to Project 1999. The land of lacking foresight and knee-jerk reactions.

In all seriousness though, from day one this server swelled far and beyond what anyone forecast. An admirable job has been done along the way to keep this place functionally and slightly resembling the state of EQ in 1999.

By the time this 'problem' comes to fruition, there will be a zillion iksar monks and shaman running around to form the basis of groups for all the stragglers. It should fix itself splendidly. Believe me when i say not everyone has a mage/cleric duo or druid that is going to gleefully follow them form 1-50 on their alts.

No matter what way you slice it, those coming up in the next gen of this server are going to have it easier: better geared groupmates, xp resses, high level buffs, almost classic potions and poisons, FIXED quests, a boatload of beta-tested content, and a ecnomy that sells the stuff they need to level for pennies on the dollar.

It will all be okay. Anyone who's struggling mightily should probably head back to WoW and hit that loot pinata a few more times and solo to their hearts content. We all know this game is difficult and heartbreaking going into it. If you roll a group-needing, gear-dependant class, you should know going in your are making life difficult on yourself. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Bubbles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome to Project 1999. The land of lacking foresight and knee-jerk reactions.

In all seriousness though, from day one this server swelled far and beyond what anyone forecast. An admirable job has been done along the way to keep this place functionally and slightly resembling the state of EQ in 1999.

By the time this 'problem' comes to fruition, there will be a zillion iksar monks and shaman running around to form the basis of groups for all the stragglers. It should fix itself splendidly. Believe me when i say not everyone has a mage/cleric duo or druid that is going to gleefully follow them form 1-50 on their alts.

No matter what way you slice it, those coming up in the next gen of this server are going to have it easier: better geared groupmates, xp resses, high level buffs, almost classic potions and poisons, FIXED quests, a boatload of beta-tested content, and a ecnomy that sells the stuff they need to level for pennies on the dollar.

It will all be okay. Anyone who's struggling mightily should probably head back to WoW and hit that loot pinata a few more times and solo to their hearts content. We all know this game is difficult and heartbreaking going into it. If you roll a group-needing, gear-dependant class, you should know going in your are making life difficult on yourself. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I kind of agree. I don't think many people here realize that the economy is going to get so full of items (over time) that their price will go down. It will be trivial (compared to today) to get items that're now expensive. Few (or none) of them are no drop (in modern eq almost everything is attunable or no drop). They can be traded. This will make things easier. As you say, there will be high level shamans/clerics/druids buffing people. I've already seen it happen. In modern EQ we don't see these kinds of mechanics because high levels can't buff low levels and items aren't trade-able once worn. For people new to this set of circumstances, it'll be a journey (with pitfalls/treasure).

People who play now are the explorers, the path finders, the builders. You're setting the groundwork for tomorrow. You're getting the economic engine going. Your job is to fill the economy with loot and your own generosity. I honestly believe that people here are underestimating the points I've made about items being tradeable and more people with high level shaman/druid/enchanter/cleric alts. The reason they're doing this is simple enough. It takes time for this to happen. They want results now. They fail to realize there're people who will play in these conditions and enjoy it. They're the builders. They'll play no matter how hard it's. Besides, my viewpoint is that whether or not new players in the future can survive well is not really important. What's important is that this is faithful to classic. This is a memoir of classic eq. If it dies, maybe that's a good thing, eh? It could always restart, or maybe we'd just move on. So what.

I would rather the server stay classic, and not increasingly mudflate to survive. If it dies, at least it dies with dignity. (Keep in mind that when kunark gets released, that by itself is a dose of mudflation. We already have high levels of mudflation due to all of the eq veterans and the internet. We have it hard, but if we mudflate as much as modern EQ did in the past, then we're going to end up with the exact same circumstances that made us come here (death w/o dignity?). If we can't find some other way to work this out, without mudflating project1999 every step of the way, then we're going to feel like all this time was wasted repeating past mistakes.)

Death with dignity. This is about classic. Pay your respects to its memory. Leave, if you have to. Or change how you play.

Mudflation:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...76&postcount=7

[Reiker]

Lol advice = unreasonable demands

[Widan]

Yes, because saying play a different class or change your real life schedule around for an emu is advice. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]