Not Camping = Abusing IP Exemption / Pullin Cards On Deceitful

[bizzum]

Originally Posted by Bantam 1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he's just straw manning the issue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just giving my honest opinion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bantam 1]

Originally Posted by bizzum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just giving my honest opinion [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, but you're leaving out what the real accusation is.

I'm not sitting here thinking its the biggest issue ever, but its a rules arguement (which again is part of raiding).

Guild 1 - has lots of extra accounts to hop about quickly (even quicker with ip exemption is the point).

Guild 2 - Probably has only some of that capability and is rules lawyering to take away that perceived advantage (or some of it).


PS - nice screenie - yep so it saves only 1 loading screen assuming same account.

[Handull]

and fyi 1018 has been fully resolved, and it was never related to /q-ing or another other "anit-camp-radius" style superstitions. only time you'll see 1018 now is if someone else is on the account or if you /q and try to instantly sign into the same account you were just on.

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[bizzum]

Perhaps not a 100% iron fist "this is illegal" ultimatum, but surely a "you're not supposed to be doing this stop it" sort of thing.

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[Apeople]

Ah good, nice post zagum, glad to see jeremy should have all his ip exemptions removed.

[bizzum]

Originally Posted by Apeople [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ah good, nice post zagum, glad to see jeremy should have all his ip exemptions removed.

Actaully Jeremy never had two clients open at once so it really has nothing to do with that statement from Zade.

I don't see the issue. If his friends come over to play / roommate plays with him, should he still be forced to camp even though he could /q and change accounts if they are not currently logged in, because its not fair he logged over to his other mule faster? There is no exploiting/evading an in-game death from this, and he's not running two clients, either.

[Bantam 1]

Originally Posted by bizzum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actaully Jeremy never had two clients open at once so it really has nothing to do with that statement from Zade.

I don't see the issue. If his friends come over to play / roommate plays with him, should he still be forced to camp even though he could /q and change accounts if they are not currently logged in, because its not fair he logged over to his other mule faster? There is no exploiting/evading an in-game death from this, and he's not running two clients, either.

I think they are saying is that he's idling at server select to avoid camping out to check mob spawns (which the screenie supports). So he can beat someone that has to camp by 20-30 seconds.

This obviously doesn't impact anyone not racing for a particular mob.

[Wrench]

Originally Posted by bizzum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see the issue. If his friends come over to play / roommate plays with him, should he still be forced to camp even though he could /q and change accounts if they are not currently logged in

abso-fucking-lutely

[Freakish]

Situation 1) Raid practicalities. I see Trakanon unengaged. I run my necro in with DA #1, pop DA #2 when it runs out and /q. I then log on my 60 rogue instantly and my guild engages before DA #2 clears off and my guild gets FTE + a 60 rogue dps.

Situation 2) I am low health on my rogue but I know I have my cleric right there. I /q on my rogue and log on my cleric because rogue will stay in game LD for 3 minutes and I can just log my cleric in to heal him + toss him buffs.

This is how you exploit the /q and instant log in and why there are issues with it being abused.