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Old 09-03-2013, 05:09 PM
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The P99wiki didn't exist in 1999, therefore it should be removed!
The server hardware used for P99 didn't exist in 1999 and should now be removed!
Smartphones didn't exist in 1999, and so they should all be removed!

You should also realize that the argument to remove the tracker from the wiki is as ridiculous as the statements above. Even if it was removed, I'll just build standalone site for archiving the data, if for nothing else than to appease my apatite for tears.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:10 PM
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Auction tracker, not classic.

Item linking, not classic. People should be typing in the stats on items...everyone wants the "classic" experience, amirite?
Let's do it
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:12 PM
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Auction tracker, not classic.

Item linking, not classic. People should be typing in the stats on items...everyone wants the "classic" experience, amirite?
The auction tracker isn't part of the actual game. You are arguing about whether an off-site website is classic or not. It has nothing to do with what is IN the actual game. There were plenty of ways to find out prices for things on a given server. Websites, guild websites, asking guildies, getting a PC in /ooc, asking friends, etc. etc. The point is not to make websites classic. The point is to make the server classic. Bards didn't AoE kite to the extent that they do here, either, but the mechanics were classic, so I guess we have to live with that. Even if they take the tracker off the wiki, there are other trackers, as we speak.

And it's not a matter of "everyone wants" things to be classic. That's the stated goal of the server, like it or not.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Wiery [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The P99wiki didn't exist in 1999, therefore it should be removed!
The server hardware used for P99 didn't exist in 1999 and should now be removed!
Smartphones didn't exist in 1999, and so they should all be removed!

You should also realize that the argument to remove the tracker from the wiki is as ridiculous as the statements above. Even if it was removed, I'll just build standalone site for archiving the data, if for nothing else than to appease my apatite for tears.
Especially since we had numerous sites like Alla's that performed the exact same role that the Wiki pricetracker does. I used them all the time, in 1999-2000. That's how I knew I wasn't going to be ripped off.

And there already are standalone sites that archive the pricing data.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:16 PM
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Sadly, auction tracker goes against the "classic" mindset. EC trading was a class in itself on live. That being said, I'm sure if Sony had an auction tracker they would of implemented it, and I don't see how it does anything but help the community.
There was auction trackers on Live. Allakazam Premium Service included one version. There were others.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:22 PM
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Pulled from the home page of P1999

"Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward. Project 1999 is a free to play Emulated Everquest Server giving Players the opportunity to experience Classic EQ Once again, currently in the Kunark expansion and a max level of 60, with the look and feel of the old interface and several modifications making game mechanics similar to how the game used to be. Project 1999 is the best and most popular classic Everquest experience."

Since it isn't part of the game mechanics. The wiki shall live another day.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:27 PM
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But it's still not classic. Apparently I was one of the few in this thread that was a tunnel rat on live. If allakhazam was accurate I would of used it but it wasn't. End of story.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:40 PM
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I lived in the EC tunnel on live, and quit with the introduction of the Bazaar.
There was no outside influence for pricing as strong as the auction tracker. Doing PC's, asking friends, asking your guild was all very normal.
Allakhazam was not accurate at all, and no one checked it for item prices; I don't know what game you played, but I never once heard "Allakhazam says its worth X" in my 3 years of tunneling...not one single time.
All the arguments being made for the auction tracker is that it saves you guys time, and you are paranoid of being ripped of.
If you want to kill a raid boss, you track it. If you want to get top dollar and become an auction hero, you track item prices. This is just how the game was, and should be replicated as such.
If you want to trivialize the EC tunnel for convience, then where does it stop? Why not put a mob spawn tracker on the wiki, and track the last time each mob was last killed so I do not need to compete with trackers/more dedicated people?
EverQuest is an unforgiving game that you need to invest countless hours to achieve what you want. EC tunnel was no different on live and should be no different here. If you do not have the dedication to learn the market, why do you feel you deserve to be handed the information?
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:44 PM
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If you want to trivialize the EC tunnel for convience, then where does it stop?
eff it just make a global trade channel. I wanna EC tunnel while I XP in Kunark.
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Old 09-03-2013, 07:05 PM
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Auction tracker was only ever of limited use, but it's more valuable than not having it. There are items I only ever camped after spending some bathroom time on my tablet skimming the wiki for stuff I could camp.

Anyone arguing against it on "shits classic" principles is arguing a fight they can't win. Shit like the tracker existed in classic too.

Bring it back as soon as possible.
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