why do so many people want a teams server?

[Vile]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let me get this straight. You're advocating item loot permitted they first add unclassic nodrop items to prevent losing items.

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made me lul

[runlvlzero]

I advocate a moderate approach to item loot rather than an all or nothing a la cart approach. There will still be things to "risk"

Everyone says the reason they most like item loot is because it makes player agency matter more. Well some people aren't that red. Were playing an MMO not a MUD or a pnp game.

Catering 100% to player agency is not the best solution.

Infact, most people here.

ESPECIALLY the fuckers in Nihilum are blue as fuck and do not like any kind of agency what so ever. And are perfectly happy to "achieve a timesink".

While I think your *are more genuinely interested in player agency, you are no Salem either Ender. Not a shining example of online RP and PvP. So I don't want to hear bitching about making softcore item loot from your pixelated corner. Only people that can bitch IMO are Gustoo, Chewie, Salem, Tunak, yall can cry that I suggest some watered down crap compared to full on freedom.

Lastly I already previously have advocated in the past maximum freedom/agency... Full classic item loot. Even permadeath. FV loot. I've made threads and threads of that. Never will happen. Its a pipe dream.

You can also call this a pipe dream too. But right now I feel like its a really good idea.

Smedy Jesus and other NCC/IF pals u can bitch about softcore versions of item loot aswell.

Everyone else I'm not interested in seeing more of your moronic input/flamebait. At this point its argument for the sake of argument. Nothing analytical or rational about it. Just "this didnt work implemented differently under other circumstances, why you want to implement it that way, it will never work". Fine ... but the shit coming out of your keyboards is pretty dumb. Why the fuck wont it work if you can loot a Mithril BP but not a DF chestplate? People will still want to wear/use Mithril Bps. Same goes for FBSS vs thick leather apron. People are going to wear those FBSS's. And resist gear. Their not going to just roll with some crap. Not the good ones.

Scrubs will always be scrubs, zergs will always be zergs, Nihilum will always be Nihilum. Fuckin pussies worried that some of your gear might become drop able is what U r.

Don't worry. Not in this universe. Not on P99's watch. They got you covered.

I mean I can feel the palpable OCD and fear of not being able to wear Best in Slot pumping through the interwebs. U couldnt hack it without BIS and with item loot.

Its like your sacred duty to acquire, hoard and wear the sacred pixels. Zero else matters. God for bid things were diff. No one is taking it away from you. We just want to make it funner/more challenging for you/us to do it.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While I think your *are more genuinely interested in player agency, you are no Salem either Ender. Not a shining example of online RP and PvP. So I don't want to hear bitching about making softcore item loot from your pixelated corner. Only people that can bitch IMO are Gustoo, Chewie, Salem, Tunak, yall can cry that I suggest some watered down crap compared to full on freedom.

Ender's kills and kdr dwarfed anything Salem did, or will do.

Rip Ender.

[SamwiseRed]

rip ender.

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[runlvlzero]

Only thing I know about you is that your spent your time raiding for the trak teeth and got banned for MQ.

You may have engaged in more mass pvp and generated way more "stats" but. I haven't experienced fighting you. Nor do I know about your previous toons on other servers. Your just some DPS rogue in Nihilum for all I know.

Granted I aint shit. So maybe I shouldn't be telling the #1 banned rogue on the box anything about item loot.

Just a scrub. But at least I am willing to risk it rather than just be mad about it.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only thing I know about you is that your spent your time raiding for the trak teeth and got banned for MQ.

You may have engaged in more mass pvp and generated way more "stats" but. I haven't experienced fighting you. Nor do I know about your previous toons on other servers. Your just some DPS rogue in Nihilum for all I know.

Granted I aint shit. So maybe I shouldn't be telling the #1 banned rogue on the box anything about item loot.

Just a scrub. But at least I am willing to risk it rather than just be mad about it.

I don't know about "raiding for trak teeth", but I never was banned for anything even remotely related to hacking or exploiting.

I was banned for deleting some asshats character that stole numerous items, accounts and was involved in the deletion of another players account. And not before he posted our entire guilds personal info and phone numbers on a forum largely inhabited by sociopaths.

For one week, I was batman.

[runlvlzero]

Brennard > Ender =)

That dood did it from scratch in rawhide from level 1-60 before he got pussywipped IRL.

He was also super legit in game, fighting the good fight for all the underdogs.

[SamwiseRed]

resorting to lamort RL pics is just a low blow

[pharmakos]

you definitely have a point there.

preferably there'd be a fresh server if item loot is implemented.

[Dullah]

There is no impossible gear advantage from kunark gear.

Mostly just higher AC. Few hundred hp from some of the better items, and some stats and resists. Slightly higher dmg, lower delay. Velious gear will be a different story. When you have big stats/resists and +100hp/mana in every slot, that is an advantage. Weapons insane, better than epics.