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How is it more likely that people are duping items than it is likely that people are simply re-selling shit? That is the whole appeal to ec trading, you buy an item and try to flip it. Who knows why someone would want to do it anon, hell, maybe they forgot their forum username/pw and just created a new account? Back to the topic at hand though.. the guy in the other thread said he duped items by mistake which resulted in both item & plat getting duped. Explain why anyone would continue to dupe items vs just duping plat when duped plat isn't trackable? (one of the admin/gms/devs said this in a tiggles interview iirc)
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07-24-2013, 12:52 AM
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Maybe the person duping items didn't know that plat could be duped using the same method...until that stupid person posted his story instead of contacting staff.
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07-24-2013, 01:11 AM
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1. Find and fix the dupe
2. Server ~3 week rollback 3. 3x Xp for ~3 weeks 4. Profit Yes, it would suck for those who put in a ton of time lvling during the ddos. But I think the majority of us have not gotten much accomplished during the last few weeks. In fact it drove many extra people to EC to trade since thats all they could do safely, which made the trading of duped items that much worse. On the flip side if the dupe is fix and ddos gone having a 2x/3x xp period would put most of us well ahead of where we were as we could focus on lvling during the period for better gains. The only issue major issue i see right off the bat would be account trades would be an issue. The plat x traded to y for an account rolls back...but the account info does not. So anyone who bought an account during the roll back period got it for free and those who sold are screwed. But...tracking these few sales down and making it right would be a lot less work for the staff than chasing down duped items traded 3-4 times each through the logs. Anyways...just an idea other than wipe it clean...wipe it kinda clean!
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07-24-2013, 01:23 AM
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I honestly think people underestimate the novelty-ness of an AoN... I had one on live and I sold it after a couple of weeks because other shit is more worthwhile. It is awesome until someone is selling a Donal's bp and will take the AoN as trade, ch clicky > skeleton clicky =P. Then all of a sudden the DOnal's bp vendor is selling AoN and you get a cycle of that item showing up over and over again.
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07-24-2013, 01:31 AM
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One more long post of EC logs from that site. Keeping in mind there is that gap of data I mentioned from 23 weeks ago - 39 weeks ago, I think we can see the duping most likely started 5-6 weeks ago, or at least that's when the dupers wanted to start unloading.
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I sold 4-5 of these for him over a ~3 week span. So part of the influx on these was from him/me and legit. However, the ones ive been seeing sold currently are not from anyone I sold to as far as i know. Also I do agree with Halmir, if the duping is purely for RMT purposes they would just dupe plat and if they did dupe high end items they would just want to keep those stockpiled to sell to people for cash, not put them out on the market were young detectives can start connecting dots.
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07-24-2013, 01:51 AM
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It's possible, though CRoA's also follow this same exact pattern of becoming extremely common 5-6 weeks ago. I haven't looked at any others.
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