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[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Something'Witty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't get it. How exactly would wiping the server lead to "all the sudden you have tons of people having fun playing EQ PVP?" If anything you just discouraged the "the minority with lots of time invested and gear" from coming back, resulting in an even lower server population! I mean, do you really think there are 200-300+ people just sitting around wanting to play on 99red if it wasn't for those damn high end players in one guild in particular?

^, you'll just end up with an even smaller pop after the initial "o cool a new box" phase wears off within 3-4 weeks

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by NotKringe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just a huge proponent of team man... If we aren't helping our lower level guys while constantly pressuring Nihilum's high end groups there is no morale... I tried to instill a "Guild Factor", if you will, into everyone where anyone online would know that if you corpse camped so and so with 3-4 toons anyone online would drop everything on a whim and we would come to your aid, then apply pressure in return to the opposition... Unfortunately there were just too many people (from what I had to choose from) that were to involved in themselves to see the bigger picture (would rather farm their 10th and 11th Fungis etc than to come help lock down/drive out the important zones we needed to apply pressure too)... That drove my ambition to lead right out the door.....

Maybe one day tho someone will step up and get those guys together..

Anywho thanks for the honorable mention, carry on with the discord topic!

even worse, if you werent part of their cliche, you werent getting a fungi invite. farmers gonna farm, need more team players.

i always suggested doing things as a team. like put the whole guild in seb. on a king, other at juggs, ect. that way if pvp happens you have 3-4 groups of players to rain hellfire missiles down on the opposition. but nope, i would get responses like "thats not efficient and we only need X to kill fungi king."

[Vile]

anyone discussing a wipe is just dumb, we know it's not even an option, whether we agree or not.

[Vile]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even worse, if you werent part of their cliche, you werent getting a fungi invite. farmers gonna farm, need more team players.

i always suggested doing things as a team. like put the whole guild in seb. on a king, other at juggs, ect. that way if pvp happens you have 3-4 groups of players to rain hellfire missiles down on the opposition. but nope, i would get responses like "thats not efficient and we only need X to kill fungi king."

pixel disease bro.. many on the box are infected.

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by Something'Witty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't get it. How exactly would wiping the server lead to "all the sudden you have tons of people having fun playing EQ PVP?" If anything you just discouraged the "the minority with lots of time invested and gear" from coming back, resulting in an even lower server population! I mean, do you really think there are 200-300+ people just sitting around wanting to play on 99red if it wasn't for those damn high end players in one guild in particular?

Yes I do. New people start all the time, see the state of the server, quit soon thereafter.

It is not about "griefing off Nihilum." Right now at any given time there is a large uncontested Nihilum raid force in VP/Seb/wherever, a few crusty bitches and a handful of ragtags in COM, and a bunch of new players on the verge of quitting after soloing to lvl 15 alone.

It doesn't get much worse than that. The argument of "join up and contest us then!" is a loser argument. Shit has been going on for like 10 months now.

Lastly, all of the "threats of quitting forever" coming from people like Heartbrand are completely unfounded. For most of his guild, EQ is their life. They will be pissed but they will not quit.

Sorry not sorry. Facts + Truth + Science = Wipe

[SamwiseRed]

gonna catch some heat but whats the point of a wipe? another goddamn ffa server? when will you people see the light and put a hard coded teams server on a box?

[p-niner]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even worse, if you werent part of their cliche, you werent getting a fungi invite. farmers gonna farm, need more team players.

i always suggested doing things as a team. like put the whole guild in seb. on a king, other at juggs, ect. that way if pvp happens you have 3-4 groups of players to rain hellfire missiles down on the opposition. but nope, i would get responses like "thats not efficient and we only need X to kill fungi king."

Hehe

Tried that. Same ffarmers didnt leave their camps to defend zone in and we wiped.

[Something'Witty]

Originally Posted by GrobbGangsta [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes I do. New people start all the time, see the state of the server, quit soon thereafter [1].

It is not about "griefing off Nihilum." Right now at any given time there is a large uncontested Nihilum raid force in VP/Seb/wherever, a few crusty bitches and a handful of ragtags in COM, and a bunch of new players on the verge of quitting after soloing to lvl 15 alone [2].

It doesn't get much worse than that. The argument of "join up and contest us then!" is a loser argument [3]. Shit has been going on for like 10 months now.

Lastly, all of the "threats of quitting forever" coming from people like Heartbrand are completely unfounded. For most of his guild, EQ is their life. They will be pissed but they will not quit [4].

Sorry not sorry. Facts + Truth + Science = Wipe

I disagree with your OPINIONS, cause you stated no facts.


[1] - Have you been conducting exit surveys or something or is this just your opinion?

[2] - Fair assessment, but again have you been collecting in game zone census data?

[3] - Why is it a losing argument? Is Nihilum really that good of a guild? All day, every day, in /ooc and on the forums we hear about is how Nihilum is terrible at every aspect of the game, which leads me to logically conclude that anyone who can't beat them is even worse.

[4] - Maybe true, but if the server was wiped, I would not return, and are you really sure wiping the server would bring in more players then it would drive away? In my OPINION, I don't think it would.


Anyhow, none of this really matters since the Devs have said there will be no wipe. I am just bored and killing time, so I decided "why not ForumQuest!"

[GrobbGangsta]

Originally Posted by Something'Witty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree with your OPINIONS, cause you stated no facts.


[1] - Have you been conducting exit surveys or something or is this just your opinion?

[2] - Fair assessment, but again have you been collecting in game zone census data?

[3] - Why is it a losing argument? Is Nihilum really that good of a guild? All day, every day, in /ooc and on the forums we hear about is how Nihilum is terrible at every aspect of the game, which leads me to logically conclude that anyone who can't beat them is even worse.

[4] - Maybe true, but if the server was wiped, I would not return, and are you really sure wiping the server would bring in more players then it would drive away? In my OPINION, I don't think it would.


Anyhow, none of this really matters since the Devs have said there will be no wipe. I am just bored and killing time, so I decided "why not ForumQuest!"

#'s 1 and 2 need no "data" because all must one do to confirm is simply log on.

As to #3, people say individual players in Nihilum are bad, not the guild as a whole. Impossible to argue that as a whole the guild with all the gear, zones, members on lockdown is "bad." The point is that there is simply no competition./

As to #4, you are right, and you will all get to keep your pixels on a low populated server with no competition. Have fun farming wands/pots/soulfires for the limited pvp engagements.

I didn't say a wipe would happen, I said it would solve all the problems that people bitch about, which are all the result of a shitty server that needs to be wiped.

[greenkrak2]

Originally Posted by Andis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and theres a storm comin, i can feel it