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Old 07-13-2013, 12:49 PM
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Because if it is found that they are making money from this venture in anyway they open themselves up to legal action from Sony.
This.
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Old 07-13-2013, 12:48 PM
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First off, the stream was entertaining to listen to while hanging with my guildies killing stuff. My criticism of the streaming moderator is that you say little things here and there that annoy people. Making fun of Rogean's accent, correcting the viewer count when the number quoted was off by a couple all made me (and others) groan.. Good interviewers stay out of the way and let the guests do their thing while guiding the conversation and keeping it on track. Also the advertisement at the end was so cheesy..
Secondly, from the point of view by many watching, this whole thing seemed to boil down to the guy trying to get his account back and that's it. It kept coming back to him being pissed off that he lost his account because the same rules were applied to his situation that have hit others. It's well documented, people who buy accounts often get screwed over because the account they bought was probably leveled up using MQ and it gets detected and eventually banned. Anyone truly concerned about the server would have gone directly to Nilbog and if ignored or no satisfactory result was achieved, go to the players with all the info. The approach taken completely killed off any trust or belief that anyone would have had for him. Honestly, if I were the staff, right after the MQ use was identified and admitted to I would have yelled peace out, dropped the mic and walked off the stage. That was the awesome slam dunk, game over moment of the show.. That they stuck around only served this guys purposes further, giving him more air time, and more opportunities to get details out of the GM's on what they know / don't know or how things operate behind the scenes, all great intelligence for people trying to scam / hack the system.

This BS drama is being dragged out longer by dangling the carrot in front of everyone with this mysterious information he has, thus keeping the spotlight on him longer. It's like these companies that pull crap like "if we get 1 million twitter followers, we'll donate money to help fight cancer in kids". It makes them look like scumbags who could care less a bout the cause and more about themselves. That's all this guy is.

I have to say that the best part of all of these streams from involving the GM's is that it gives us all a peek behind the scenes of the server operations. It's far more informative and meaningful that posts to forums which degrade into asshattery. Having transparency without giving too much intel to those who would exploit the system is a great move. I'd love to see more originating from the staff (interviews etc) than from players.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:36 PM
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I have a lot to say, but I have a busy day ahead of me so I might not can today. I have several options as far as what to do with the data I have, but after some private conversation with Sirken and Roegan, I know that no matter how incriminating my data is, it will be very simple for them to deny it by saying it is fabricated.

Sirken told me verbatim that he "turns a blind eye to RMT because it keeps people on the server". Also, the scan to determine who is using the hack/exploit/whatever it is yesterday is NOT retroactive, so anyone who has used it to this point will not be punished in any fashion.

To those speculating that I bought the MQ2 compile from the kenetix site: That is not true, and the build I was using was specifically modified to be undetectable. The hacks may have become available on Kenetix since I got them, but I know that no one had purchased them off of that site when I obtained them. They were only given to people who had specific access to specific sections of specific communities (really specific, right?). I had not been detected up to that point, even though I had several characters that remained untouched until yesterday, including a level 17 Wizard named Fireand that I tested the MQ2 compile with and made it to that level and became bored. The compile itself still is not detectable without (as I said in my OP) a specific link to the people using it... In other words, the people using it on the server will not be caught unless the GMs are notified of their behaviors, and even then there is plausible deniability unless Roegan does to them what he did to me last night (checked the path).

So the TL;DR:

-The GMs won't allow a 3rd party to independently compare my data to theirs
-They deflected the TMO issue, and the allegations I made into a spectacle to point out the lie I told simply to draw attention to the circumstances
-High ups turn a blind eye to RMT because it protects the server,
-They know for a fact that I have data that is accurate (per Sirken), but it is just as easy for them to argue that my data has been manipulated as it is for me to argue that it's accurate
-I did NOT buy the program from Kenetix Systems.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:39 PM
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-The GMs won't allow a 3rd party to independently compare my data to theirs
-They deflected the TMO issue, and the allegations I made into a spectacle to point out the lie I told simply to draw attention to the circumstances
-High ups turn a blind eye to RMT because it protects the server,
-They know for a fact that I have data that is accurate (per Sirken), but it is just as easy for them to argue that my data has been manipulated as it is for me to argue that it's accurate
-I did NOT buy the program from Kenetix Systems.
You have no credibility here anymore. Even if what you say is 100% I don't think more than a handful of people that already believed that will believe you.

whether or not its true doesn't matter at this point, and if what you say is true and the gm's can simply deny your claims as fabrication what can you do.

You've already lost.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:41 PM
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You have no credibility here anymore. Even if what you say is 100% I don't think more than a handful of people that already believed that will believe you.

whether or not its true doesn't matter at this point, and if what you say is true and the gm's can simply deny your claims as fabrication what can you do.

You've already lost.
That poll says otherwise, and furthermore, its not a win-lose thing for me because I'm done playing on the server. I don't even care about my old account anymore.

Its a loss for YOU guys if it isn't handled.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:42 PM
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That poll says otherwise, and furthermore, its not a win-lose thing for me because I'm done playing on the server. I don't even care about my old account anymore.

Its a loss for YOU guys if it isn't handled.
Polls are meaningless...

and yes IF there is ANY validity to what your claiming it would hurt us. Yet there hasn't been any just empty promises and lies....
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:44 PM
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Polls are meaningless...

and yes IF there is ANY validity to what your claiming it would hurt us. Yet there hasn't been any just empty promises and lies....
I gave some of the data I had last night on the stream. Sirken confirmed that he knew I had accurate information (albeit in private)... Hopefully he would own up to saying those things publicly as well, but I also think that Tiggles was still in the vent call when we were talking about it, so maybe he can confirm outside of Sirken or me.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:55 PM
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That poll says otherwise, and furthermore, its not a win-lose thing for me because I'm done playing on the server. I don't even care about my old account anymore.

Its a loss for YOU guys if it isn't handled.
You wisely threw in TMO in your allegations because you know there are people who are jealous of them or have been genuinely and within the rules, screwed over by them who will jump on your bandwagon due to their sour grapes.

You are a manipulator and a liar. If you really had any evidence of any worth and wanted to bring them down you would send it to Sony. But you wont because you have nothing but your lies.

And for not caring about your account, for a guy who doesn't care about it, you sure seem to dwell on it an awful lot.

Begone loser.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:49 PM
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Also, the scan to determine who is using the hack/exploit/whatever it is yesterday is NOT retroactive, so anyone who has used it to this point will not be punished in any fashion.
Wow. You just really don't have a clue, do you? They didn't just figure out how to detect the DLL tampering yesterday in order to catch you. Rogean said there were accounts flagged. He simply checked to see if yours was one of them, to prove that those using the same methods would be banned.

Are they retroactive? No. Did they just start flagging yesterday, with you? Absolutely not.
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Old 07-13-2013, 01:55 PM
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Wow. You just really don't have a clue, do you? They didn't just figure out how to detect the DLL tampering yesterday in order to catch you. Rogean said there were accounts flagged. He simply checked to see if yours was one of them, to prove that those using the same methods would be banned.

Are they retroactive? No. Did they just start flagging yesterday, with you? Absolutely not.
Man its just a cover up, obviously!
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