Duration of Shared Grp XP Penalties - Page 6

YendorLootmonkey · #51 07-07-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you guys know there are EQ servers without the group experience penalties?

Did you know that the group xp penalties were admitted by the Sony devs as a mistake and subsequently removed in order to keep hybrids from being further alienated once people figured out they existed? And that since people already know they exist here and the min-maxers will undeniably make grouping decisions based on that info, it'll be more likely hybrids are going to "get married" or "introduce a brother to EQ" and get an IP exemption so they can play since none of them except bards can solo efficiently?

Toony · #52 07-07-2010, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you know statements like this are worthless and offer absolutely nothing to the discussion?

Sorry, next time I'll try to add something worthwhile to the mix, like this gem...

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Yes, it's very fair that you knowingly pick a class with a exp penalty and then pass that burden on to other players who avoided those classes. Totally fair amirite?

Toony · #53 07-07-2010, 10:29 PM

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Did you know that the group xp penalties were admitted by the Sony devs as a mistake and subsequently removed...

I sure did! Played long before and long after em.

Sorry, did you guys not really want to have a discussion? It seems like you're just looking for parrots.

soup · #54 07-07-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, next time I'll try to add something worthwhile to the mix, like this gem...

Like a direct response to someone claiming it's fair that the penalty he knowingly chose to carry with him is passed on to his group members?

Yes, that's definitely as pointless as saying something like "LOL THERE IS OTHER SERVERS" amirite? Never mind the fact that I was directly replying to someone (not you) as opposed to just throwing out some pointless statement to everyone as if it was some profound point.

utenan · #55 07-07-2010, 10:35 PM

I was upset about this at first when I noticed my exp slow down a bit, but what really hurts exp gain seems to be the level of the people in your group. If I get a royals group with a bunch of people 8 levels higher than me, i get pretty bad exp. If I get a windows group with people my level, the exp is much quicker.

I was duoing with a ranger last night and I got half of my level and had a great time. I am even in a hell level (shared that exp penalty with him?) So I don't really care about that anymore. And I have yet to see anyone turn down, or even mention hybrid exp penalties, and every group i have been in since the patch have had hybrids in it. I mean, if you are going to do that, then no one in a hell level should group with you either, right? You'd be subjecting people to your horrible penalty! But once again, ive yet to see this first hand.
I am more upset about sharing hell level exp, since it didn't seem to happen in classic?

On another note,

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Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe this is still open for discussion. There are two issues here...

1 - The class/race penalties should stay in, and will stay in. That's classic and was by design.

2 - That the class/race penalties affected a GROUP's xp gain was an acknowledged bug back in the Verant days (once they fixed it anyway). There is a thread here somewhere discussing this in more detail. Since it was a BUG, it should get fixed here too.

Can someone (nilbog? aeol?) step in and comment? I'd hate for our beloved ugly Trolls (and others with xp penalties) to start disappearing from our server! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the community as a whole decided that they did not want the penalties in, is that something that would ever be changed?

gruumsh · #56 07-07-2010, 10:38 PM

I have yet to have trouble getting a group since these changes despite my heavy class/race exp penalty. I think a group would rather take me as a tank (and thus start killing and getting exp) if they need one rather than wait for a tank who has no exp penalty.

I also noticed that the exp was slow, but it wasn't as horrible as I expected based on the forum posts about it. However, I did notice that it slowed down EXTREMELY when I was grouped with even one player who conned red to me. IMO I think that this isn't that bad as it encourages people to group with a tighter level range and not just piggy back on higher level groups for exp.

Besides, I joined this server because when I joined EQ live back in 2003, all of this content was way obsolete (as well as alot of the mechanics of classic EQ that make it so challenging such as long travel times). I know some people have done all this before but I for one, and others too, are playing on this server to get the classic EQ experience with all the ups and downs.

Toony · #57 07-07-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like a direct response to someone claiming it's fair that the penalty he knowingly chose to carry with him is passed on to his group members?

Yes, that's definitely as pointless as saying something like "LOL THERE IS OTHER SERVERS" amirite? Never mind the fact that I was directly replying to someone (not you) as opposed to just throwing out some pointless statement to everyone as if it was some profound point.

Sorry man, best of luck changing things to some version of whatever you think is "fair". I gotta get back to my group with this troll SK in it, too busy racking up XP to worry about this bullshit.

soup · #58 07-07-2010, 10:52 PM

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Sorry man, best of luck changing things to some version of whatever you think is "fair". I gotta get back to my group with this troll SK in it, too busy racking up XP to worry about this bullshit.

And best of luck to you learning the difference between partaking in a discussion and posting asinine troll statements. (see, I can make them too!)

YendorLootmonkey · #59 07-07-2010, 11:24 PM

A cleric who's browsing the boards and posting msgs while in a group kinda scares me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] haha

Toony · #60 07-07-2010, 11:29 PM

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A cleric who's browsing the boards and posting msgs while in a group kinda scares me. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] haha

No deaths, 4 orange bubs and TWO SK's in the group [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]