Get rid of bard AoE kiting, we've had our fun

[citizen1080]

I think Rabies got AIDS from a bard who raped him while he forced to watch another bard rape his wife.

[t0lkien]

Originally Posted by Rabies [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong. What do you think would happen on live if you were abusing a zone by locking up literally every mob in it, to the point where no one else could use it? As someone who used to AE group, I can tell you that a GM would come and tell you to stop it because it's zone disruption. It's no different than intentionally training. The game is designed to accomodate groups of people, usually many groups of people, and if a single person (or group) somehow finds a way around that, it's still against the rules.

Swarm kite all you want, but it's still using game mechanics in a way they weren't intended, and if you take it so far that other people can't find a mob to kill, you've crossed a line and opened yourself up for vigilante justice. The only problem is that more people don't do it. You're in the right. Take your zone back, people.

It's not AoE kiting that removes all the mobs. It's low hit-point kiting, and I agree this mechanic is pretty much blatant exploitation, which is why I won't do it. I don't want to get 2 levels every hour anyway. If I want that I'd be playing another game. AoE kiting is easy enough once you have it down (though hellishly boring for too long; give me a good group any day).

It sounds to me like you are just a bit bitter because you decided you wanted a set of mobs, and a Bard decided they wanted it, much like the guy I ran into in SK who abused me right out of the box for nothing, simply because I was a Bard and dared to tag some mobs from "his" area when he wasn't there. This frankly brutish sense of entitlement swings both ways.

The Bards I know would do what I did - leave him alone despite his stupidity and go elsewhere (in my case I just ran the zone picking up the many strays, which was all the same to me anyway, and netted me a Pegasus Cloak). There are plenty of mobs for everyone on this server. No need to get all aggressive for nought. I say the same to you.

[Tasslehofp99]

who in their right mind hunts in the overthere? Lol

[Rabies]

Really don't care what you think. If I'm exping and all the mobs in the zone disappear, I will find that bard and fuck up his day. Bonus points if he's taken money to PL someone.

I have a hard time believing the GMs won't do anything about it, if asked to. I've never petitioned myself (I'd rather kill the bard-- see above), but if the average player was put in this situation, I don't believe that our server GMs would not step in and stop it. It is so obviously and blatantly against the rules, I just don't believe they would not do that.

[t0lkien]

Dude, if you ever tried to kill a Bard who knew what he was doing, you would end up being the one watching the loading screen, not him. Be careful you don't go postal on 1. an innocent 2. a competent.

And 3. chill out.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Rabies [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong. What do you think would happen on live if you were abusing a zone by locking up literally every mob in it, to the point where no one else could use it? As someone who used to AE group, I can tell you that a GM would come and tell you to stop it because it's zone disruption. It's no different than intentionally training. The game is designed to accomodate groups of people, usually many groups of people, and if a single person (or group) somehow finds a way around that, it's still against the rules.

Swarm kite all you want, but it's still using game mechanics in a way they weren't intended, and if you take it so far that other people can't find a mob to kill, you've crossed a line and opened yourself up for vigilante justice. The only problem is that more people don't do it. You're in the right. Take your zone back, people.

If you are so confident in what you are saying, then why did you feel the need to create an anon troll account?

[Visual]

swarm kiting even more difficult than it was on live. If anything it should be fixed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tasslehofp99]

AE kiting was deffinetly on live, atleast it worked in kunark up to planes of power.


I remember getting fuckloads of AA points duoing with a bard in this fashion in plane of nightmare and plane of valor.

[Calibix]

Outdoor zones don't really have camps. And your entitled to any amount of mobs you can reasonable handle, which in this case is all of them. So don't fault the bard for playing to the fullest.

I will say that low hp kiting certainly locks up mobs for a longer period of time, particularly in OT, since that's where the majority of power leveling goes on; however, the simple fact is they are entitled to as many mobs as they can handle, just the same as you. If you don't like it move on. In other zones like DL, BW, EJ, you never see bard complainers because its almost never PL, its people killing in a reasonable amount of time.

As a bard myself, I can tell you right now, if you played a bard, you would swarm to. Sitting in a group for 2-3 hours and getting maybe 1.5 blues, or a duo/trio for the same amount of time maybe 2.5? With a good partner in BW I can pull about 7-8 blues if not more in that same amount of time. In OT, you can ding twice from 1 pull if your doing it solo. No one's time is more valuable than anyone else's, so I don't get why people would complain about people maximizing their xp gains.

It is absolutely no different if you wanted to camp any camp, but it was already taken. You'd find somewhere else to go. But in this case, you complain. It makes no sense. Its a big pile of jealousy is what it is.

All that being said, when I was aoe'n in OT, I left mobs alone near groups I saw, and I never have a problem with someone snagging mobs out of my train. Never really got too many complaints, although I tended to do it in off hours more often than not.

[Trouble]

Kill the rhinos or other mobs that are pesky to bards. Peel off our kites if you want. Be aware if an accident happens, though; mobs comin atcha. OT/EK/NK/WK/SK/DL/LOIO/WW and the like are places for soloers, being outdoor with lots of room to move and few casters. Bards can solo, as anyone in this thread knows. Know this before coming to these places or learn it while you're there, and communicate with the bards. Anytime I've talked to someone privately and rationally I leave mobs up around where they're killing. When they call me out in ooc, no sympathy- grow up and stop whining. I don't go out and try to disrupt people. I'm just out doing my thing, as you are.