Item loot for server growth

[Nirgon]

From one RZ player to.... one of you emu pvpers...

There's a blue server!

People like you are the reason there is WoW and WoW clones everywhere.

Now that felt classic.

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From one RZ player to.... one of you emu pvpers...

There's a blue server!

People like you are the reason there is WoW and WoW clones everywhere.

Now that felt classic.

That's basically the nail on the head, a lot you just don't belong here. If your opposed to item loot there's a giant blue server you should be playing on.

PvP server's are for pvp not for blue bad's to farm the best gear and pretend they can pvp vs new and undergeared player's.

[Faerie Blossom]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If your opposed to item loot there's a giant blue server you should be playing on.

You can't force your preferred style on everyone else and expect to have other people to play with. In all fairness, adding in item loot probably would hurt the population. We need to make some compromises if we want to avoid single player EQ.

[Swyft]

Originally Posted by Faerie Blossom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't force your preferred style on everyone else and expect to have other people to play with. In all fairness, adding in item loot probably would hurt the population. We need to make some compromises if we want to avoid single player EQ.

What population? there's less than 80 people left active on this box and most hang in seb's all day.

There's absolutely no incentive to pvp here, you win, you get nothing, you lose you lose exp WTF, this box only promotes pve, you get lvl's and you get gear form PVE! and sorry there is already an entire server devoted for that.

You actually said this server has too much pvp LMFAO!

NEWSFLASH!

IT'S A PVP SERVER THATS THE POINT OF BEING HERE NOT TO FARM SEBS ALL DAY, PLS GO TO THE SERVER YOU BELONG ON AND STOP SHITTING UP THE FORUMS WITH YOUR NONSENSE!

[Faerie Blossom]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's absolutely no incentive to pvp here, you win, you get nothing, you lose you lose exp WTF, this box only promotes pve, you get lvl's and you get gear form PVE! and sorry there is already an entire server devoted for that.

I don't think an EQ server can be devoted to any one thing. The community can choose to devote themselves to pve encounters if they wish, but the opportunity for RP, making friends and like playing the market game is always there. Wanting incentive to pvp beyond winning camp rights and just having fun sounds too WoW for my tastes. We have real reasons to pvp, like earning scarce resources and fighting people that have become your enemy in some way. It's great [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You actually said this server has too much pvp LMFAO!

Yeah my facetious comments seem to be misunderstood quite frequently. It's causing me a bit of a headache lately, and here I just thought I was being clever and funny.

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

NEWSFLASH!

IT'S A PVP SERVER THATS THE POINT OF BEING HERE NOT TO FARM SEBS ALL DAY, PLS GO TO THE SERVER YOU BELONG ON AND STOP SHITTING UP THE FORUMS WITH YOUR NONSENSE!

Don't tell me what my purpose should be here. EQ isn't so limiting, even if you try to make it so. If absolutely everyone came here with the attitude you have, things would be really bland. PvP is great, but there's so much more to the game than just that. It was fun back in the day to tell people that they were too blue to play pvp, but now that we're actually hurting for players we might want to consider admitting to ourselves that playing a video game doesn't make us hardcore and that if we welcomed other styles of play instead of demonizing them we might have more people to play with.

Just my simple elfin opinion.

[Silent]

Originally Posted by Swyft [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What population? there's less than 80 people left active on this box and most hang in seb's all day.

There's absolutely no incentive to pvp here, you win, you get nothing, you lose you lose exp WTF, this box only promotes pve, you get lvl's and you get gear form PVE! and sorry there is already an entire server devoted for that.

You actually said this server has too much pvp LMFAO!

NEWSFLASH!

IT'S A PVP SERVER THATS THE POINT OF BEING HERE NOT TO FARM SEBS ALL DAY, PLS GO TO THE SERVER YOU BELONG ON AND STOP SHITTING UP THE FORUMS WITH YOUR NONSENSE!

As far as people 'farming' seb or other kunark 50+ exp zones, Most of them are still exping up and getting loot is a benefit. Not everyone got to hit 60 right off the bat before the exp bonus was reduced and then put back in partially.

Blue is dumb, Even if you wanted to play solely for PVE its retarded. Granted I have only spent a little time on blue playing friends chars, Just the impression I got was "holy shit ide rather play on red with 100 people then blue". EC tunnel alone is redic, People sell names for plat. I saw someone named Edward and Alice Cullen with matching gear.. level 1-10s with fungi/fingerbones/CoF full rubicite everything. What do they do? Sit around all day in EC tunnel and show off/sell stuff big ticket items/accounts and flip flop from class to class. And they almost all have a fondness for anything 'unique' such as guise or firepot chars. Or like that 60 epic vp guise fp shaman thats going for an insane amount of plat.

I hear you can't even get dragon kills or anything unless you manage to get into the top guild since theres a few dozen guilds that knock out everything and it all comes down to some rules like whoever zoned in first or whatever. Kill boss and end up getting loot taken away and given to a guild who just sat there on their thumbs because 'they' had the claim first. That just doesn't cut it, I would rather steamroll over said guild then sit around debating loot.

[Spike Spiegel]

For realz.

WTB larger sig pix

[Spike Spiegel]

I guess I was just dreaming.

I still like server. Norrath is great place.

[Spike Spiegel]

I agree about negativity. I think its a great place and has pure potential. I'd like to see it nourished by the people that can make permanent real changes. Players can make it a better place on their own but we want to look to our leaders for ultimate guidance.

Definitely a great box though.

[Faerie Blossom]

Originally Posted by Spike Spiegel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree about negativity. I think its a great place and has pure potential. I'd like to see it nourished by the people that can make permanent real changes. Players can make it a better place on their own but we want to look to our leaders for ultimate guidance.

Definitely a great box though.

The devs and GMs can't be our leaders, because they're our referees. And we tend to abuse them. I'm pretty sure, with this crowd, we would be complaining about something different even if we had everything we've been demanding. It's probably that we like to complain, and are unwilling to consider that maybe we're the problem.

We can't laugh about griefing people off of the server and whine to the devs about our low population at the same time. At least not without looking silly.

Anyway, true change comes from within, never without. They can force changes like teams or item loot or what have you, but unless we stop prophesying our tragic demise we will resign ourselves to such a fate.