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Old 03-24-2013, 11:41 PM
LetTheWookieWin LetTheWookieWin is offline
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The Fungi was just an example. Every mid-high end item has skyrocketed in price (FBSS 7k > 10-11k, Idol of the Thorned 6k > 9k, JBB 25k > 50k, etc...)

Inflation that severe and universal is not indicative of supply and demand fluctuations, but of excess money supply. It's a monetary phenomenon. Too much plat dumped on the market at the same time. Too much money chasing too few "investment grade" goods (i.e. Fungi, CoF, manastone, etc...).

Plat sinks would help to alleviate this problem, and give rich players something to spend their money on besides the accumulation of high end droppable loot they aren't even using and only holding as a form of wealth/inflation hedge.
This is the best post endorsing a change. Directly identifies the problem, identifies the cause of the problem and puts forth a plausible solution.

A possible secondary option would be to have guides offering some serious high end services. A few come to mind:

Bind at firepots: 500,000 platinum
Triggering of epic mobs with only quest piece dropping: 100k.
Trigger a double xp weekend for entire server 5,000,000 plat

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Old 03-25-2013, 01:17 AM
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Bind at firepots: 500,000 platinum
Triggering of epic mobs with only quest piece dropping: 100k.
Trigger a double xp weekend for entire server 5,000,000 plat
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Firepots, yes. The other two, no. Cosmetics and minor conveniences are OK.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:56 PM
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Bind at firepots: 500,000 platinum
Triggering of epic mobs with only quest piece dropping: 100k.
Trigger a double xp weekend for entire server 5,000,000 plat

Thoughts?
2 out of 3 of those are truly awesome ideas (double XP for plat target and firepots bind for 500k) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not so sure about triggering epic mobs, on the surface its a great idea but you'd need guides online 24/7 to do it or some code written in with a trigger NPC... cue the "not classic" crowd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do support any attempts to fight off inflation on the server for sure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:03 PM
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2 out of 3 of those are truly awesome ideas (double XP for plat target and firepots bind for 500k) [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not so sure about triggering epic mobs, on the surface its a great idea but you'd need guides online 24/7 to do it or some code written in with a trigger NPC... cue the "not classic" crowd [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do support any attempts to fight off inflation on the server for sure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I like the idea of option to purchase XP bonus with plat out of all of these. Would be nice if it didn't involve some NPC with a name flashing over it that wasn't in classic like "XP BONUS HERE". For some reason those handout NPCs in EQ emulators bother me so much. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:23 AM
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Ridiculously unclassic, but the "buying epic spawns by giving platinum to an NPC" caught my attention.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:13 AM
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As a Bard who desperately wants his epic but will probably never achieve it until the Undead Bard is introduced, I say "hell noz" to spawning Epic mobs for a "price." Epics are supposed to be rare for a reason.

But I still think introducing the Shadowhaven Casino would be a good plat sink.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:11 PM
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As a Bard who desperately wants his epic but will probably never achieve it until the Undead Bard is introduced, I say "hell noz" to spawning Epic mobs for a "price." Epics are supposed to be rare for a reason.

But I still think introducing the Shadowhaven Casino would be a good plat sink.
I would rather buy an epic spawn than buy an MQ, at least that way I would still get to kill the mob.
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:14 PM
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lose its value on this server? prices on key items only ever seem to be increasing in price while other items are dropping in value due to extreme amounts dropping over the extended classic and kunark period.

just like any exhausted or inflated economy what is going to happen? people are starting to make 500 - 1m plat offers on items. is that classic? i definately think having items is alot safer bet than having a big load of platinum.

is enough platinum being banned off RMT accounts to keep the inflation down?

EQ created things that ate server platinum later on through other expansions and helped a little but what will happen here?
I was starting to think the same thing until I was going through my p99 screenshots folder the other night. I was amazed at the prices I did not recall being that high.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:43 PM
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That, and it doesn't take money out of the economy. It just puts it around. The general idea here is to take some plat out of the economy to make things more even for newer players. IE a player who camped seafurries a year ago saw a lot more for their efforts than one now due to the prices of items differing at this point.
right, but what i was getting at was, what if i opened an EC casino? the platinum would in fact be removed from the economy (by me) and it would also be scam free. as far as the seafuries, you do realize that the over farming of SFs is part of the reason for the inflated prices right? another big reason was people were able to plan for the removal of certain items (ie manastones), whereas on live they couldn't. and because these items no longer drop, the person with the most can control the market. most of what Silo69 says is right on the money though.

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Get rid of account selling. Player spends 100k on a toon, the seller suddenly has a huge bank roll to waste and little patience. He drives up the prices in the name of saving time, now the players who sold the items are flush with money AND have an inflated sense of what their products were worth. They get a few more sales and now they can afford to blow 100k on a toon of their own and start the cycle all over again.
you realize that acct selling happened on live from prekunark until forever correct? the difference being that we dont ban people for talking about it. either way, thats not a huge economy problem, its actually an entirely worse set of problems.


in the end, if people would stop paying these jacked up inflated prices, then the prices would come down. hell, look at gasoline. was .98 cents a gallon when i started driving, its up over 400% since 1998. and gas will NEVER be anything close to what it was because PEOPLE KEEP BUYING GASOLINE. if america just STOPPED buying 4$ a gallon gasoline, you can bet your asses the prices would drop.

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Old 03-25-2013, 02:54 PM
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in the end, if people would stop paying these jacked up inflated prices, then the prices would come down. hell, look at gasoline. was .98 cents a gallon when i started driving, its up over 400% since 1998. and gas will NEVER be anything close to what it was because PEOPLE KEEP BUYING GASOLINE. if america just STOPPED buying 4$ a gallon gasoline, you can bet your asses the prices would drop.

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but gas is a right, how will I get to work, it is a necessity, omg government intervention, we need price controls!

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