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Old 06-24-2010, 01:36 PM
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In all fairness with levelling both of my chars from 1-50 (necro and cleric) I think I grouped with like 5 enchanters ever? Groups seem to flow pretty well with or without them though admitedly the CC does tend to make it a bit safer. Most enchanters come off as too full of themselves and I always found it hilarious when they would freak out doing sissy ass groups about mobs being mezzed. OH NOES SOMEONE BROKE MEZ ON THE MOB IN THE CAMP I CAN SOLO EXCEPT I HATE SOLOING?!

Regardless, pet control is super fucking easy. Right before every mob dies hit pet back off. Reassist and tell pet to attack again when the tank picks a target. Not fucking rocket science. If the pet has aggro on a mob that is smacking it over and over. Watch the enchanter, when they start glowing and shooting big bright white balls of awesome out of their ass, start hitting back off, hopefully landing it just as the enchanter lands their mez. Or if you are a necro and really nice, root the mob and back your pet off so the enchanter can mez it. La de da. SOOO HARD.
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Old 06-24-2010, 01:53 PM
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In all fairness with levelling both of my chars from 1-50 (necro and cleric) I think I grouped with like 5 enchanters ever? Groups seem to flow pretty well with or without them though admitedly the CC does tend to make it a bit safer. Most enchanters come off as too full of themselves and I always found it hilarious when they would freak out doing sissy ass groups about mobs being mezzed. OH NOES SOMEONE BROKE MEZ ON THE MOB IN THE CAMP I CAN SOLO EXCEPT I HATE SOLOING?!

Regardless, pet control is super fucking easy. Right before every mob dies hit pet back off. Reassist and tell pet to attack again when the tank picks a target. Not fucking rocket science. If the pet has aggro on a mob that is smacking it over and over. Watch the enchanter, when they start glowing and shooting big bright white balls of awesome out of their ass, start hitting back off, hopefully landing it just as the enchanter lands their mez. Or if you are a necro and really nice, root the mob and back your pet off so the enchanter can mez it. La de da. SOOO HARD.
Some great stuff there, may I add that you are right most of the time 1-50 dungeons don't really "require" an Enchanter to go through. There are some camps that makes it a lot easier (and especially after the break, you don't need an Enchanter to keep the camps).

I have found though, that when Kunark comes out, Enchanters are almost required for some of the camps. Sebillis can be one, (Yes there are some great monks that may be able to split up some camps).

As far as being full of themselves, I can see how working with the tank and both being in control of the flow on how things are done might make some people get big heads. But on the other hand, I've seen many many clerics full of themsleves because of being able to give back lost xp.

All in all, I have received some positive input, and it is nice to see that there are people that ware willing to take this information for what it is.
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:06 PM
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As far as being full of themselves, I can see how working with the tank and both being in control of the flow on how things are done might make some people get big heads. But on the other hand, I've seen many many clerics full of themsleves because of being able to give back lost xp.
Yeah this always seems to be like in the level 10 groups where everyone is a nub freaking out like OMG YOU BROKED MY MEZ. And I am like OMG I can solo all 3 of these mobs at the same time! Who cares if the dumbass level 6 warrior broke mez. Are you dying? Close to dying? Then shut the fuck up lol.
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Old 06-24-2010, 09:15 PM
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I should know better to not respond to obvious troll posts who know nothing of what they're talking about.

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Seriously, every time I see a fucking thread like this OH MYGOD THEY HAD 14 PEOPLE ITS OUR MOB LOL OURS OURS OURS YESSS I just want to fucking deathtouch the entire guild and despawn the mob.
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Old 06-26-2010, 01:01 PM
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Vex learned the pet mechanics from my leetness.
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Old 06-26-2010, 04:05 PM
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You do realize it's people like this who keeps the game going.

Noobs who don't know any better.










But they will.
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Old 06-27-2010, 06:35 PM
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If you're in a group with someone who seems to be slow and unaware and their pet keeps messing your mezzes... invis them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] problem solved.

"i'll stop invising you when you control your pet"
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Old 06-28-2010, 10:10 AM
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If you're in a group with someone who seems to be slow and unaware and their pet keeps messing your mezzes... invis them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] problem solved.

"i'll stop invising you when you control your pet"
That is a tactic I will have to start using more often.

I usually do this on Wizards that nuke once per 4 mobs and go afk. (This is a whole new topic that should be called "Wizards, do you actually contribute?)

There are only a few I will group with because of this problem, Mages are getting there with their pet issues now haha.
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Old 06-28-2010, 11:09 AM
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That is a tactic I will have to start using more often.

I usually do this on Wizards that nuke once per 4 mobs and go afk. (This is a whole new topic that should be called "Wizards, do you actually contribute?)

There are only a few I will group with because of this problem, Mages are getting there with their pet issues now haha.
Lazy Wizards is a different animal altogether, and they're harder to catch than anyone else. Lazy healers or melee DPS is obvious, and lazy pet classes if their pet isn't doing anything, but a Wizard can get away with just sitting there doing nothing, hitting a hotkey to /assist /cast nuke /sit every few minutes and no one would ever know.
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