TMO resort to hacking in VP

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Next time I can't kill Xygoz I'm gonna start crying about something everyone has been doing since forever that the staff has never disciplined anyone for!

this isn't about killing xygoz this is about us getting ready to attempt but ensuring we had complete control of the ledge before another attempt. keep cheating and spinning.

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Next time I can't kill Xygoz I'm gonna start crying about something everyone has been doing since forever that the staff has never disciplined anyone for!

Never seen / heard about it myself. A bit early to claim "everyone has been doing since forever". I wouldn't be surprised if the GM didn't know about this either. And it's still clearly an exploit.

Top guilds teaching us new "tricks" every day.

[getsome]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Next time I can't kill Xygoz I'm gonna start crying about something everyone has been doing since forever that the staff has never disciplined anyone for!

exploiting is exploiting. you should go find your duct tape now.

Zeelot you should need to muzzle Malcolm, he is not going to win any hearts or minds with his line of reasoning. Sometimes silence is just better.

Now that this is on the radar of things to watch out for, I foresee a guild and character getting a vacation in the near future if such exploitation does not come to a halt.

[maverixdamighty]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is fast switching between accounts exploiting too? Should we start petitioning that?

fast switching to another account while you have agro and are not fd/da etc is an exploit, period. i'd ban myself if anyone can prove i've ever done it, won't happen.

[AenarieFenninRo]

So, there seem to be two arguments going on here, one that seems to offset the other... and being made by the same people, which is a joke to me.

Theory one, that he didn't DA so he had agro which shouldn't allow for fast switching
Theory two, that /q is an exploit that shouldn't be allowed (fast switching).

to address the first from your fraps, its hard to tell if he does DA or not, but you do realize that being at character select or having your account active on a different character does allow DA to reset right? So with a cleric having 2 DAs, possibly an idol... thats at least 3 DAs available to them which would then make this "ok" because the person didn't have agro based on being DA.

The second, has been known for a LONG time so to start sounding indignant about someone /q'ing for a fast switch just makes you sound like whiney children.

I dont see how this argument can stand up in court. Hell, even Chest is here defending it, and he's nearly ALWAYS against TMO in R&F. If that doesn't tell you something, then you're not paying attention much.

[finalgrunt]

Was quitting while DA a classic feature on live btw?

[getsome]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, there seem to be two arguments going on here, one that seems to offset the other... and being made by the same people, which is a joke to me.

Theory one, that he didn't DA so he had agro which shouldn't allow for fast switching
Theory two, that /q is an exploit that shouldn't be allowed (fast switching).

to address the first from your fraps, its hard to tell if he does DA or not, but you do realize that being at character select or having your account active on a different character does allow DA to reset right? So with a cleric having 2 DAs, possibly an idol... thats at least 3 DAs available to them which would then make this "ok" because the person didn't have agro based on being DA.

The second, has been known for a LONG time so to start sounding indignant about someone /q'ing for a fast switch just makes you sound like whiney children.

I dont see how this argument can stand up in court. Hell, even Chest is here defending it, and he's nearly ALWAYS against TMO in R&F. If that doesn't tell you something, then you're not paying attention much.

tl;dr - Cheating and exploiting is ok, if your not caught on fraps.

[Godefroi]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, there seem to be two arguments going on here, one that seems to offset the other... and being made by the same people, which is a joke to me.

Theory one, that he didn't DA so he had agro which shouldn't allow for fast switching
Theory two, that /q is an exploit that shouldn't be allowed (fast switching).

to address the first from your fraps, its hard to tell if he does DA or not, but you do realize that being at character select or having your account active on a different character does allow DA to reset right? So with a cleric having 2 DAs, possibly an idol... thats at least 3 DAs available to them which would then make this "ok" because the person didn't have agro based on being DA.

The second, has been known for a LONG time so to start sounding indignant about someone /q'ing for a fast switch just makes you sound like whiney children.

I dont see how this argument can stand up in court. Hell, even Chest is here defending it, and he's nearly ALWAYS against TMO in R&F. If that doesn't tell you something, then you're not paying attention much.

You should pay attention to the fraps, he is getting hit hence not DA.

That's "Fast switching" as you call it. That's exploiting.

[Servellious]

Originally Posted by AenarieFenninRo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, there seem to be two arguments going on here, one that seems to offset the other... and being made by the same people, which is a joke to me.

Theory one, that he didn't DA so he had agro which shouldn't allow for fast switching
Theory two, that /q is an exploit that shouldn't be allowed (fast switching).

to address the first from your fraps, its hard to tell if he does DA or not, but you do realize that being at character select or having your account active on a different character does allow DA to reset right? So with a cleric having 2 DAs, possibly an idol... thats at least 3 DAs available to them which would then make this "ok" because the person didn't have agro based on being DA.

The second, has been known for a LONG time so to start sounding indignant about someone /q'ing for a fast switch just makes you sound like whiney children.

I dont see how this argument can stand up in court. Hell, even Chest is here defending it, and he's nearly ALWAYS against TMO in R&F. If that doesn't tell you something, then you're not paying attention much.

He was doing this none stop for about 20 minutes. Its total bull shit and just one of the many cheats TMO uses.

[getsome]

you can always quit while DA, whether or not you came back alive, depended on who else was around, and how much damage the npc was doing to you after your DA wore off and your toon sat there LD.