sk starting points

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Meh maybe they are trying to finish our level 59 on their cleric and don’t have more than 30-90 minutes to play per session.

KC is trivial but unfortunately there aren’t people readily available in other zones to group with on a limited play schedule.

I sat a week’s worth of 60 minute sessions in seb. It was either empty or there were 3 level 60s farming fungis

Like I said that's a player issue not the zone issue, hole was packed before. 10% zem less and it's empty.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like I said that's a player issue not the zone issue, hole was packed before. 10% zem less and it's empty.

I agree, it is a player issue if they choose not to play at 100% efficiency.

However, if the average player prefers to play at a slower pace, that means small boosts to DPS will affect the average player less.

If we are talking about a hyper-focused player who is trying to rush levels, they are more likely to hit 60 and get raid gear anyway.

I am not sure where this unicorn player is that is hyper-focused on gaining levels as quickly as possible, while also looking at starting stats in a manner that is more akin to a casual player. A player who is hyper-focused on gaining levels is probably leveling an alt, which means they are more likely to twink anyway. They are going to have a ton of DPS, carry capacity, and WR bags already.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree, it is a player issue if they choose not to play at 100% efficiency.

However, if the average player prefers to play at a slower pace, that means small boosts to DPS will affect the average player less.

If we are talking about a hyper-focused player who is trying to rush levels, they are more likely to hit 60 and get raid gear anyway.

I am not sure where this unicorn player is that is hyper-focused on gaining levels as quickly as possible, while also looking at starting stats in a manner that is more akin to a casual player. A player who is hyper-focused on gaining levels is probably leveling an alt, which means they are more likely to twink anyway. They are going to have a ton of DPS, carry capacity, and WR bags already.

Inefficient also means 20int is pointless , so this really doesn't help you either. Most players will half afk in KC only returning when they tab back from YouTube. That's reality.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Inefficient also means 20int is pointless , so this really doesn't help you either. Most players will half afk in KC only returning when they tab back from YouTube. That's reality.

Exactly. That has been my point. Neither +20 STR or +20 INT is providing a noticeable boost to the average player. Therefore, put your points into the stat that is harder to cap, so you can get the benefits for a longer period of time. It really is that simple.

I provide examples of where INT can be useful simply to dispel the notion that max mana will never matter. This is obviously not true.

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This thread is absolutely wild. There's no better example that DSM has no fucking clue what he's talking about most of the time than this thread. Even when presented with concrete, iron clad, granite strong data and facts he refuses to admit he's wrong and instead changes the argument to something else. Instead of INT not being the choice he refuses to admit STR is the better choice and decides to say it would be better to go with a stat that'll be uncapped for longer.

You literally can't make this shit up. I wonder if we could petition the GMs/forum Admins to ban him from the forums. At this point he's causing actual harm to people who might mistakenly take anything he says as good advice.

What are you talking about? I have provided in-game evidence with videos and logs, EQEMU code, and statistical distributions of stats on gear. That is concrete data and facts. Simply saying "20 STR increases DPS in a significant manner because I say so" is anything but concrete lol.

The majority of posters have resorted to trolling and attacking people, which is actually against the forum policies. I am not sure why you think I am getting banned lol. The trolls are getting banned first for thinking it is a good idea to call other people autistic, and then proceed to make fun of them for it.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly. That has been my point. Neither +20 STR or +20 INT is providing a noticeable boost to the average player. Therefore, put your points into the stat that is harder to cap, so you can get the benefits for a longer period of time. It really is that simple.

I provide examples of where INT can be useful simply to dispel the notion that max mana will never matter. This is obviously not true.

And I provided what is mostly bis from reality where DE needs the sta in order to even think about getting it capped, even your big ass sk can't cap without pe. Then you don't get to have avatar. You just ignore everything that doesn't help your narrative even with my proof.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I provided what is mostly bis from reality where DE needs the sta in order to even think about getting it capped, even your big ass sk can't cap without pe. Then you don't get to have avatar. You just ignore everything that doesn't help your narrative even with my proof.

I can also show a (much cheaper) Magelo where INT is capped before STR or STA. That doesn't change the reality of statistical distribution of stats across gear. It is still a fact that STA and STR is more common in SK gear on P99, even if you can put nothing but INT gear on an SK. Said INT gear will be inferior for an SK, but it is a valid gear combination.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can also show a (much cheaper) Magelo where INT is capped before STR or STA. That doesn't change the reality of statistical distribution of stats across gear. It is still a fact that STA and STR is more common in SK gear on P99, even if you can put nothing but INT gear on an SK. Said INT gear will be inferior for an SK.

This isn't random shit I have on and I don't cap, this is the legit path most will go, are you that much into "winning" a 24 year old Elf sim forum debate that you have to gaslight everything

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't random shit I have on and I don't cap, this is the legit path most will go, are you that much into "winning" a 24 year old Elf sim forum debate that you have to gaslight everything

You need to stop assuming I am gaslighting you. The statistical probabilities show that you are less likely to cap INT than STR or STA. It is really that simple. This doesn't mean the probability is zero, it just means you have a better chance of ending up with uncapped INT when organically acquiring gear. You ended up with the statistically less likely scenario, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Your character is awesome, and I am not trying to give you starting stat remorse. You are fine.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You need to stop assuming I am gaslighting you. The statistical probabilities show that you are less likely to cap INT than STR or STA. It is really that simple. This doesn't mean the probability is zero, it just means you have a better chance of ending up with uncapped INT when organically acquiring gear.

Your character is awesome, and I am not trying to give you starting stat remorse. You are fine.

As you say, this is fact this is what most strive to get, and I don't cap. If I was a dumbass and went int I'd be even more in a hole. Will I eventually cap? Sure but that's a long ass path to get this when your own ass character doesn't cap.

[Troxx]

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