Raiding Guild Behavior

[Whirled]

So, I made up a new game. You roll some dice and try to lawyer other players out of their adventures. In the end, the one with the most poop filled socks wins. I haven't figured out a name yet for it though. EQ raid scene is taken, so what to call it? hmm...

[Freakish]

Thank you for your contribution to a server you do not play on. Please stop posting.

[Kushie]

Butchh is fiercely protective over his petitionquest pixels.

[Spyder73]

You know very well why this is not appropriate in server chat fat ass. This belongs in RnF because you are a BDA apologist who doesn't actual care about the server and is only trying to cause problems for active P99ers.

[Kushie]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know very well why this is not appropriate in server chat fat ass. This belongs in RnF because you are a BDA apologist who doesn't actual care about the server and is only trying to cause problems for active P99ers.

Lol that is the only smart and on point response i've ever seen Spider73 post.

[Nuggie]

I dont mind a casual tracking. Checking track every 3-5 minutes. But I am not going to race for FTE. Where you have to be present and ready to go every second for hours on end.

The current pace suits me quite nicely. A&A get suspenended every 3-8 weeks due to their asshatery. The rest of the guilds form a rotation. We kill mobs and get our fill(more raiding than I prefer to do in a week tbh). The suspension ends and we go back to raiding HoT, planes, etc.

I'm not unhappy with the raid scene. Better than the TMO days. Shoot, i even enjoy the occasional time that A or A show up to a lower tier mob and contest us. Puts some spice in it.

[Troxx]

Repeat offending guilds just need more harsh punishment. If the consequences were more meaningful, the message would sink in. The mindset that drives the pixel-lust to begin with would, in theory, affect behavior. If training, leapfrogging, lawyerquesting, crying wolf, etc realistically carried a threat of absolute pixel loss for all within a guild - the good apples in either guild would quickly realize that ultra competition and shady behavior seen at the top end is not worth risking everything for (ban, delevel + stripped of all gear/coin) or loss of access (prolonged guild-wide suspension from logging in).

Punishment given to all who wear the tag.

The reasonable members of either would split away to form a new less toxic guild (or join other existing ones) and leave the banhammer to fall on the more toxic. Or maybe everyone would start to play nice? Or maybe nobody would change anything and we'd see see a big chunk of the nasty all vanish or be forced to start over?

The raid guild forum is littered with suspension messages. The rules are pretty clear ... they're just being ignored.

[bktroost]

The rules reflect the desire of the man with the keys to the kingdom. There's a rule in running a big company. The money will always go where the man with the wallet wants it to go.

If the CEO wants things a certain way its likely that is why the officers enforce it the way they do, despite how much sense it makes to the layman or how big the outcry is.

[Munkh]

It's exactly this kind of BS that's kept me from joining any guilds thus far. I almost feel like I've come to the conclusion that I won't ever get my epic/s and won't have raid gear for my toons.

I'm partially alright with this but there's a part of me that would like to be able to partake in the raid scene but don't want all the drama.

[Sancta]

Originally Posted by Sadiki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server needs to hard enforce play nice rules instead of taking a 'make everyone happy' approach - which in reality is a 'make sure A/A is happy' approach.

You do realize that the suspensions were for infractions that were a month+ apart and they suspended both guilds at the exact same time to cater to casuals and not "make sure A/A is happy" right?

Originally Posted by Munkh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's exactly this kind of BS that's kept me from joining any guilds thus far. I almost feel like I've come to the conclusion that I won't ever get my epic/s and won't have raid gear for my toons.

I'm partially alright with this but there's a part of me that would like to be able to partake in the raid scene but don't want all the drama.

Just because you don't have a guild doesn't mean you can't get your epics, but if you don't have any friends that does mean you can't get your epics.

Any sort of "drama" you see on the forums is just a loud minority, exactly the reason you only see it on the forums. Most of the people posting on the forums about the raid scene don't play here anymore.