the i dont care about politics anymore thread

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by walfreyydo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure terrorist. No one on our side condones that, like they do on the right.


Nice try tho

Wasn't that a Colonel Sanders supporter?

I hear he makes good chicken

[walfreyydo]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What the hell are you talking about? People have every right to show up to *public* school board meetings, who they directly fund through tax dollars, and express their discontent with patently racist and divisive ideas being pumped into the impressionable brains of 8 year olds. Yes, call me crazy but I think that's bad.

Sure they have a right to show up but they dont have a right to make threats and intimidate public officals - which is what is happening.

So again, trying to gloss over this and act as if this is just peaceful protest is disingenuous (but you know that, its the strategy you are trying to use but no one buys it).

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rich are carrying this country’s government on their backs in terms of tax revenue

“Only 1.4% of the $1.45 trillion in taxes paid in 2017 was contributed by taxpayers earning less than $30,000, according to the Pew Research Center.4

It should also be noted that many taxpayers in this income group received income from the government in the form of those refundable tax credits—the IRS paid out about $62 million in earned income tax credits in 2020. The average payment to qualifying taxpayers was $2,461.6”

“A study by the Tax Foundation breaks down taxpayers into just two groups: the top 50% of earners and the bottom 50%. The lower half included taxpayers with AGIs of $41,740 or less in 2017. The Tax Foundation found that this lower 50% demographic contributed just 3% of taxes paid in 2017.1

The 2018 edition of the same study indicated that the bottom half of taxpayers paid an effective tax rate of 3.7%. Those with AGIs falling between $50,000 and $100,000, which could be considered middle income, paid an effective rate of 9.25%. AGIs of $139,713 to $197,651 paid an average effective rate of 14%.7”

“The Tax Foundation’s study concluded that 96.9% of all 2017 income taxes were paid by the higher-earning 50% of taxpayers”

“ The Pew Research Center study indicates that taxpayers earning between $200,000 and $500,000 annually paid an effective tax rate of 19.4% in 2015. Their income taxes represented 20.6% of the total taken in by the IRS. This decreased to 17.9% of the total taxes paid at an effective tax rate of 26.8% for those with incomes between $500,000 and $2 million”

Ok now do sales tax and so on. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[walfreyydo]

Originally Posted by Whale biologist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok now do sales tax and so on. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still didnt cite a source so I just assume its bs taken from some Ben Shapiro post. I base my opinions on facts not choose facts based on my opinion.

Show me facts and my opinion might change. Happens all the time.

[Horza]

Trump told the Proud Boys to standby for his orders thus condemning them.

[Whale biologist]

Originally Posted by Gravydoo II [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Remember when republicans spent 8 trillion in the past 4 years now cry about money?? LOLOLOL

Deficit hawking is one of them sacred games we had to invent in the wake of deicide. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by walfreyydo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure they have a right to show up but they dont have a right to make threats and intimidate public officals - which is what is happening.

So again, trying to gloss over this and act as if this is just peaceful protest is disingenuous (but you know that, its the strategy you are trying to use but no one buys it).

I fully condemn anyone making any type of threat to any public official. Like for example the illegal immigrant who harassed Sinema while she was trying to take a shit.

Parents being concerned that their children are being indoctrinated with ideological, racist and obviously retrograde ideas, during their most formative years of life, I fully support.

You are being obtuse on purpose. I've already said that I condemn threats. You are pretending anyone who shows up somewhat angry at a school board meeting is threatening people, which is false.

[JurisDictum]

The wealthy decide what their own tax rate will be, largely. If a wealthy person is getting fucked by taxes -- its because another wealthy person put a disproportionate amount of the burden on them.

Normal people's preference has no proven influence whatsoever on policy outcomes like the tax rate. This is a fact.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journ...D4893B382B992B

Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.

Taxes are low in the United States. Welfare is not generious by any stretch. Passive investiment income gets preferential treatment. Employees can be fired at will for almost any reason.

This is where making things better for the well off at the expense of everyone else has led us. Right here. Socialism didn't lead anyone here. FDR and the New Deal didn't. This wasn't the fault of all Lydon Johnson's Great Society Programs. This is the result of Reagan ending all those programs and the entire New Deal era. It's the result privatization, limited government, lower taxes and deregulation.

And people keep thinking something different is going to happen when we go down that path.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by walfreyydo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sure terrorist. No one on our side condones that, like they do on the right.


Nice try tho

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trump told the Proud Boys to standby for his orders thus condemning them.

No he didn't. You added the words "for his orders". He most likely said "standby" instead of "stand down" because he's an inarticulate doofus, which you always point out except in this one instance. Now suddenly he is an extremely precise orator, who couldn't possibly misspeak.

He literally had no idea who the proud boys even are, what the hell are you talking about?