Raiding Guild Behavior

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's why they've had so many raid suspensions for everything from training to crying wolf, right? Because they just try harder and show up for the spawn window? Gtfo, jackass. It's because they shit all over competitors. And since nobody wants to get shit, nobody else shows up. Except A/A. I guess they enjoy eating each others' shit.

spoken like someone who has never shown up to any FTE race ever lol

No pretty much A/A keep to themselves, FTE or not FTE a mob that spawns, use the next hour gathering a raid and wind up either winning or losing the encounter.

Rinse repeat for all raid spawns.

The 'shitting on each other' happens mostly by the toxic forum trolls who dont play in game or have no basis for any kind of relevant opinion because they assume from what they read.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

spoken like someone who has never shown up to any FTE race ever lol

I've been trained more times by TMO than I can count. Just because they have a new name doesn't mean anything has changed. No. Just no. People choose not to participate here because of how terrible those raiders act. It has nothing to do with effort.

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you know this server is a "what have you done lately" place.

Suspensions since Jan 1:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=268709
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=268708
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=264102
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=263081
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=261899
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=261775

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All I was saying was A/A is bad bc we are willing to track, something no one wants to do. The fact we continue to track mobs means others have to do the same (hence the "shit raid scene") or they have to figure out other things to do that dont involve the practice.

Socking/tracking are what the current ruleset force you to do if you want FTE on a mob. "First" being the key word in FTE hence why people track/sock.

There is honestly something wrong with you. You cannot be so blind that you cannot see that NOBODY on this server likes playing with you. The two guilds combined have been suspended SIX times since the beginning of the year. And those are just the infractions that were reported and have been judged.

[Rang]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the only thing A/A has done which is truely negative in people's eyes is 'tried harder' than everyone else aka showing up for mob windows utilizing the posted server rules

the reason this upsets so many people is they feel that they 'shouldnt have to' do the same thing ( track ) in order to experience Classic EQ Raiding.

If A/A were to be nuked off the map, the hope for the casuals is that they will be able to raid without tracking but sadly this has been proven time and time again to be like finding Bigfoot.

I'm getting an unemployed vibe from this post. Maybe it's just all the drugs I've been taking to compliment my immersion.

[Endonde]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the only thing A/A has done which is truely negative in people's eyes is 'tried harder' than everyone else aka showing up for mob windows utilizing the posted server rules

the reason this upsets so many people is they feel that they 'shouldnt have to' do the same thing ( track ) in order to experience Classic EQ Raiding.

If A/A were to be nuked off the map, the hope for the casuals is that they will be able to raid without tracking but sadly this has been proven time and time again to be like finding Bigfoot.

This may be true for some uninformed individuals, but there are plenty of people who dislike you because you act like complete scumbags. You guys have an unfortunate habit of willingly breaking the rules, and then when caught and/or called out about doing so you play the victim instead of owning up to your mistakes.

See this post as a perfect example.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=246016


I agree that tracking, and poopsocking will always exist without a massive ruleset overhaul, but I think we've seen in the past from other top guilds, that you can be a top guild on the server while still attempting to make the server a better place for all players, I haven't seen that from you guys yet.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Endonde [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This may be true for some uninformed individuals, but there are plenty of people who dislike you because you act like complete scumbags. You guys have an unfortunate habit of willingly breaking the rules, and then when caught and/or called out about doing so you play the victim instead of owning up to your mistakes.

See this post as a perfect example.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=246016


I agree that tracking, and poopsocking will always exist without a massive ruleset overhaul, but I think we've seen in the past from other top guilds, that you can be a top guild on the server while still attempting to make the server a better place for all players, I haven't seen that from you guys yet.

That Nagafen was over a year ago and thats what you point to?

Cmon you are better than that, you know this server is a "what have you done lately" place. Assuming nothing was learned gained from the guilds first suspension is a bit audacious dont you think?

AW is not the same guild that ran over the "little guys" at Nagafen. In fact, we have probably only killed him 2-3 times in the last year since that raid ban. That alone shows AW is not only capable of change and learning but it pretty much turns your post into an angry misinformed one that I dont really understand the point you were making.

All I was saying was A/A is bad bc we are willing to track, something no one wants to do. The fact we continue to track mobs means others have to do the same (hence the "shit raid scene") or they have to figure out other things to do that dont involve the practice.

Socking/tracking are what the current ruleset force you to do if you want FTE on a mob. "First" being the key word in FTE hence why people track/sock.

[Endonde]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That Nagafen was over a year ago and thats what you point to?

Cmon you are better than that, you know this server is a "what have you done lately" place. Assuming nothing was learned gained from the guilds first suspension is a bit audacious dont you think?

AW is not the same guild that ran over the "little guys" at Nagafen. In fact, we have probably only killed him 2-3 times in the last year since that raid ban. That alone shows AW is not only capable of change and learning but it pretty much turns your post into an angry misinformed one that I dont really understand the point you were making.

All I was saying was A/A is bad bc we are willing to track, something no one wants to do. The fact we continue to track mobs means others have to do the same (hence the "shit raid scene") or they have to figure out other things to do that dont involve the practice.

Socking/tracking are what the current ruleset force you to do if you want FTE on a mob. First being the key word in FTE hence why people track/sock.

The Nagafen suspension although it may be old is just the perfect example because it proves my point in one nicely consolidated post.

Here is another example,

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=261343

Solid points for owning up to your mistake.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=26

Annnnnnd then you instantly try to find a way to blame your fuck up on the other guild petitioning you too much.


Your guild is all over RnF right now trying to spin your current suspension as Aftermath's fault somehow.

I like you as a person Eratani but your guilds attitude as a whole is pretty awful, you pretend you can do no wrong, while constantly getting caught doing wrong.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That Nagafen was over a year ago and thats what you point to?

9 months ago (June 2016) was over a year ago?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

9 months ago (June 2016) was over a year ago?

Not to mention the fact that this behavior continues over such a long course of time is pretty damning in itself.

[stonez138]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That Nagafen was over a year ago and thats what you point to?

Cmon you are better than that, you know this server is a "what have you done lately" place. Assuming nothing was learned gained from the guilds first suspension is a bit audacious dont you think?

AW is not the same guild that ran over the "little guys" at Nagafen. In fact, we have probably only killed him 2-3 times in the last year since that raid ban. That alone shows AW is not only capable of change and learning but it pretty much turns your post into an angry misinformed one that I dont really understand the point you were making.

All I was saying was A/A is bad bc we are willing to track, something no one wants to do. The fact we continue to track mobs means others have to do the same (hence the "shit raid scene") or they have to figure out other things to do that dont involve the practice.

Socking/tracking are what the current ruleset force you to do if you want FTE on a mob. "First" being the key word in FTE hence why people track/sock.

This guy really, really, really, wants to believe he's one of the good guys.

[Gorillas]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the only thing A/A has done which is truely negative in people's eyes is 'tried harder' than everyone else aka showing up for mob windows utilizing the posted server rules

the reason this upsets so many people is they feel that they 'shouldnt have to' do the same thing ( track ) in order to experience Classic EQ Raiding.

If A/A were to be nuked off the map, the hope for the casuals is that they will be able to raid without tracking but sadly this has been proven time and time again to be like finding Bigfoot.

Dude your such a fucking mongoloid, you've been poop socking for 4 fucking years straight and still act like you're doing something productive.