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[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The real sham was trying to fix this inequality through entitlements, rather than opportunity.

this, and unequal outcome does not mean inequity too

[Nibblewitz]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this, and unequal outcome does not mean inequity too

I would agree if we were living in an economic system where there were more resources than debt, but our current negative-sum game is really wreaking havoc.

[mickmoranis]

If you want to really get some insight into the modern white nationalist movement, the Danial Radcliff movie is really not that far off.

NOTE: they do not provide any counter arguments to the ones made by the leader of the cell or group or whatever they call themselves, that the movie is focused on.

Also the greenroom is just an awesome movie too.

[skarlorn]

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[Lune]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that's the thing a lot of people don't get though.

know thy enemy; the extreme white nationalist side of the alt right aren't just "white trash rednecks" if you're stuck thinking these people are last-generation kkk and neo nazi types you're going to end up fighting the wrong fight and lose horribly. new white nationalism is a very intellectual facts/statistics/evidence based reactionary movement. it's not "kill the nagroes cletus" anymore it's more like "let's compare FBI crime statistics and read the culture of critique"

to contrast, the current social justice left is a good example of the opposite -- an emotion driven, low IQ movement that foregoes facts and evidence for surface level warm fuzzy feelings. if the left or old-cuck right wants a chance against these people you have to acknowledge that on average they're smarter than you and they're more committed and knowledgeable about their ideaology than you. i don't mean the internet autist posters on here, who are probably intelligent people, i mean the average drone following your political movement.

it's also very misguided to think there's much of an idealogical tie to nazism outside of a mutual dislike for jews and the meme factor



i mean a lot of my friends are very politically active people and i like to have deep conversation over a glass of whisky, so a lot

Yea, the guys dressing up in KKK, Confederate, and Nazi paraphernalia are totally intellectuals with compelling arguments and are in no way obfuscating any valid point they think they have by co-opting ridiculously ignorant, trashy imagery.

"New White Nationalism" is just white trash using the internet to find an echo chamber. Grow up

[Pokesan]

how dare these low-income nobodies besmirch the good name of fascism

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I observe a sickening lack of critical thinking in this country, particularly in the media, when these white trash redneck fucks get labeled nazis and fascists just because they are carrying around swastikas. They don't know what fascism is and they are unlike Nazis in every single way except the racial hatred; Hitler would have contempt for them.

A 16 year old kid who puts on a Che Guevara shirt and keffiyeh, gets a hammer and sickle tattoo, and then throws rocks at things while periodically checking his iphone to make sure mom and dad paid his tuition at Berkeley is not a communist.

Labels matter, and focusing so much attention on the Nazi identity distracts from the reality of what the alt-right stands for and how common their brand of racial discomfort is in the psyche of every white american.

*daps hammer*

The ridiculousness of it hurts the message as well. All they are doing is making the pseudo educated Americans tone deaf. Like someone said eloquently on another forum, do you want Hitler? Because this is basically how you get real Hitler. Economically we are in decline. The salaries are unattractive with a 20k loss since 1999. Students are barely interested. The jobs are transparent, even at major corporations like Google, you are unable to make an impact as an individual without an element of luck involved or winning the lottery and being chosen as lead software engineer on a project. They have 10,000 people who will never rise above grunt work. The so-called "Google grunts" of the world have ABSOLUTELY NO CHOICE but to focus on race politics to make themselves feel better.

Attacking white privilege is your Google grunts way of feeling like he is making an impact. An extension of virtue signalling.

As long as the red shirts continue to attack the Milo Yiannopolouses of the world its a late 1920's early 1930's replay.

To get actual fascism its critical that the red shirts continue to assault anything and everything, not letting a single alt-right or conservative or republican rally go by without 100+ people dressed in all black smashing people with clubs and glass. They need to strike hard, ferociously, and relentlessly beat white males into the ground while the mainstream media refuses to condemn the activity. They need to trample over freedom of speech, trample over right to assemble peacefully, trample over conservative ideology kicking and stomping everyone in sight. So far so good.

The Republican establishment ala Rubio, Ted Cruz, et al will be seen as "literal Democrats" by the alt-right and even begin turning off moderate Republicans, sharing the same message with them regarding the "violence of the white nationalists". That begins the political melting process necessary to eliminate the 2 party system, then walla-- Hitler someday in the next 10-15 years.

[Domo]

So I read a bit about the Nazi Rally in charlottesville, and here is my PoV;

- America got a population of about 300mio.+
- about 300 of them are Nazis who went to Charlottesville
- 1 of them was a totaly sick motherfucker and killed 1 women with a car
- Trump reacted like an asshole he always been.
- Some left-wing medias reacted like its been the Kristallnacht in germany
- etc. etc.

Dont get me wrong, I know that the USA have more Nazis, and I also know that Nazis are bad (maybe because I am german...), but the way the american media reacted to this story is laughable.
The body of this poor women wasnt even cold, and the media focused already on Trump & his bullshit.
Sure, Trump reacted like an asshole and should be called out for it, but the medias reaction to this was like the "happy" right-wing when somewhere some muslims blow shit up, and use it then as a reason to be loud.

Long story short: the media seems not to care about the women who got killed or the nazis, they care more about Trump & his bullshit.

(Sorry about my english, hope you know what I mean.)

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how dare these low-income nobodies besmirch the good name of fascism

smilin hard

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Domo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I read a bit about the Nazi Rally in charlottesville, and here is my PoV;

- America got a population of about 300mio.+
- about 300 of them are Nazis who went to Charlottesville
- 1 of them was a totaly sick motherfucker and killed 1 women with a car
- Trump reacted like an asshole he always been.
- Some left-wing medias reacted like its been the Kristallnacht in germany
- etc. etc.

Dont get me wrong, I know that the USA have more Nazis, and I also know that Nazis are bad (maybe because I am german...), but the way the american media reacted to this story is laughable.
The body of this poor women wasnt even cold, and the media focused already on Trump & his bullshit.
Sure, Trump reacted like an asshole and should be called out for it, but the medias reaction to this was like the "happy" right-wing when somewhere some muslims blow shit up, and use it then as a reason to be loud.

Long story short: the media seems not to care about the women who got killed or the nazis, they care more about Trump & his bullshit.

(Sorry about my english, hope you know what I mean.)

I also found it disgusting that the victim's name was not mentioned even once by the media for 2 straight days after her death.

CNN did not name the woman, nor did they say her name or identify her. Not a single word about the dead victim. Very gross.

If I could say anything is perhaps wrong about your perspective, I would say you underestimate the violence from both sides. The Nazis at Charlottlesville had a legitimate permit to assemble and protest peacefully in the park. Technically they had a right to gather and stand there more than the ANTIFA or counter-protestors did.

The Counter-protestors or ANTIFA brought a lot of Black Bloc with them to help beat up the Nazis. This is very dubious to use Black Bloc to disrupt a rally with a legal permit, even if the rally has Nazis at it. ANTIFA in general has a lot of association with the Black Bloc movement. Obviously the ANTIFA or Counter-protestors cannot control where the Black Bloc arrives or assembles, they will go anywhere. But the fact ANTIFA benefits from Black Bloc violence has some people concerned about the media coverage which says ANTIFA is doing nothing wrong.

Not to mention the problem with ANTIFA's association with communism. Communism is bad mmmmk.