OCCUPY WALLSTREET! - Page 57

Samoht · #1 11-23-2011, 02:06 PM

Wow, you're even dumber than I thought. Use the existing system to enact change? You mean the same system that pockets huge amounts of profits legally obtained by the loopholes it created for itself? Form your own political party? And compete with the two that are so entrenched by the current system that it awards your party money if you're in one of the top two active parties?

They're literally up on the hill, scratching each others' backs. And you still think it's democrats vs republicans.

You're an even bigger sheep than Harrison.

vaylorie · #2 11-23-2011, 02:12 PM

Samoht, retards like you are exactly what will bring OWS to a screeching halt.

Samoht · #3 11-23-2011, 02:26 PM

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Samoht, retards like you are exactly what will bring OWS to a screeching halt.

Oh, it's perfectly clear now who's functionally retarded about the laws in America and the goings-on in our government. And it's the "conservative" jack-asses like you propagating the message of corporate media by bullying the common people that are derailing the movement.

You don't owe them any kind of allegiance, but for some reason, you blindly follow them. You're clearly brainwashed, and you're a tool they're using to brainwash others. That's why you're so intent on posting your opinion here and refuse to relent until you have the last word.

I can guarantee that anything you post next is going to prove me right. Do it.

vaylorie · #4 11-23-2011, 03:23 PM

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Oh, it's perfectly clear now who's functionally retarded about the laws in America and the goings-on in our government.

Since you well versed in the laws in America and the goings-on in our government, please enlighten me as to why enacting change inside of the current system wouldn't work. (again from a laws and 'goings-on' perspective)

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And it's the "conservative" jack-asses like you propagating the message of corporate media by bullying the common people that are derailing the movement.

So you are derailing the movement? Also, all I have asked for is details / plans / expectations, this enrages you as you have no details.

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Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't owe them any kind of allegiance, but for some reason, you blindly follow them. You're clearly brainwashed, and you're a tool they're using to brainwash others. That's why you're so intent on posting your opinion here and refuse to relent until you have the last word.

I can guarantee that anything you post next is going to prove me right. Do it.

Just for clarity, who specifically is 'them' & 'they'. The government in general? The 1%? The ominous sounding 'corporate media'?

Your small brain can only conceive that someone must be 'brainwashed' if they don't see things the way you do. You show your own ignorance.

Again, everyone one of your posts floats around the periphery of facts and details but never addresses them. If you were able, you would post specifics. Believe it or not, 'the system is broken' is not a fact or detailed analysis.. that is your opinion. If you submit that the existing system is broken, then has it always been broken? Was it changed at one point or numerous points throughout history that led it now to it's current state of brokenness? Can you point to those things? Who changed it and what was the context around the change? If it was working at some point how is it now irreparable? etc, etc. You spout this shit off but have no understanding of the details or facts that might lead one to say 'the system is broken'. You see that you are not successful and think that it must be the systems fault and that is enough reasoning to call you to action. Indeed, I am the brainwashed & ignorant one.

Samoht · #5 11-23-2011, 03:27 PM

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I can guarantee that anything you post next is going to prove me right. Do it.

Done, and done. Good night, retard.

Klath · #6 11-23-2011, 04:22 PM

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please enlighten me as to why enacting change inside of the current system wouldn't work. (again from a laws and 'goings-on' perspective)

Over the last 30 years or so the influence of money in politics has steadily increased. The recent Citizens United decision is the cherry on top of this trend. Over the same time period the middle class has been disappearing predominantly into the lower class. The result is that more and more money/political power is being concentrated in fewer and fewer people. As far as I can tell, it's this trend that the Occupy folks object to. The reason it's difficult to change this system from within is because pushing your agenda requires you have more money than those who are pushing back. This problem is compounded by the fact that the system reinforces itself as those with money use their power to skew the system in their favor.

Aadill · #7 11-23-2011, 04:35 PM

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The reason it's difficult to change this system from within is because pushing your agenda requires you have more money than those who are pushing back. This problem is compounded by the fact that the system reinforces itself as those with money use their power to skew the system in their favor.

Money can't fight anger.... there are 82 countries behind this general movement.... it's bigger than politics, it's the fucking human race.

Whether we figure out a way to work it like adults or with raised pitchforks, people are advocating for change.

Peatree · #8 11-23-2011, 02:14 PM

You guys know that Fippy is just trying to Occupy Queynos right?

picodefaggo · #9 11-23-2011, 02:35 PM

gee whiz ows had lead to the biggest rnf thread in months and huge amounts of discourse everywhere you go yep sure sounds like it's been a pointless endeavor so far

Aadill · #10 11-23-2011, 02:42 PM

Oh yeah and here is a politician working inside the current system

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/i...160924927.html

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The bill, filed by State Rep. Bill Mitchell of Decatur Tuesday, would "enact legislation dividing Illinois and Cook County into separate states" because county residents "hold different and firmly seated views" on "politics, society, and economics" from people in the rest of the state. The bill's supporters point to higher tax rates and strict gun laws in the Chicago area and contend that the northern county is out of step with its Illinois neighbors.