Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I am sorry, but that's real data. I don't care if you don't believe it lol. If you want to call me a liar, I can do the same thing to you and we would be at an impasse, since nobody can actually prove if this data is legit or not.

In Sebilis most mobs are level 40-50 lol. Your data doesn't even tell us which mobs you were fighting. You can't even prove these parses aren't from low level frogs[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I at least am not hiding what I was fighting.

[PlsNoBan]

This thread is such a trainwreck and I can't look away

[DeathsSilkyMist]

I will come up with a showcase video if I have time tonight. I will use your data exactly to simulate the encounters. I have to make a bunch of assumptions on your data, since you aren't providing spell casting data, mana usage, or which mobs you are actually attacking. It will be fun[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Troxx]

Parses please. No YouTube videos. Want to do both? Great! Include the videos. But concrete, hard objective data.

Time to stop farting around.

FYSA the parses I linked were seb crypt.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Parses please. No YouTube videos. Want to do both? Great! Include the videos. But concrete, hard objective data.

Time to stop farting around.

FYSA the parses I linked were seb crypt.

I will provide both, which will be far superior to your parses with missing data[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I will have the video, so you could double check all the numbers if you wanted to. Then the ball will be in your court if you want to dispute, because my data will be undisputable, while yours isn't.

[Troxx]

Gamparse is a good program. There are others out there but it does a good job. It has different viewing tabs to include one that gives you the spam of the raw logs. I recommend you turn on other’s damage hits so you can parse your group mates as well. Remember, the goal here is to see how much dps a shaman can do in a fast paced, fast killing full group. Mine included charm pet (most of the time), another mage with epic, and a tunare/ST monk other than myself.

That is the scope of this topic, this thread, and therefore the burden of proof is to show us how great your shaman is at doing it.

Regarding your disputable/undisputable jab, I can unfortunately predict where this is going. Once you fail to show that a shaman can keep up with respectable dps (or at least as good as you think you can) under these conditions I fully expect your next angle will to say that what I’ve provided (took all of 5 minutes to compile and another 5 to screenshot a jpg of) is “disputable”. I hope my prediction is wrong.

Sad thing is I have a shaman with all the same spells/levels and the same pet it’s yours. Your best bet is going to be slinging your highest hitting ice nuke repeatedly if mobs are dying fast. Bane and especially Pox are going to be underperforming mana hogs with high speed fights.

The question is will you be able to sling enough ice nukes frequently/fast enough (with canni mana regeneration advantage). Remember: mage nukes cast faster, hit harder, are more mana efficient. You’ll have more mana to play with but unlike your pet, the level 60 mage water pet isn’t a joke.

I’m interested in what you can put out over a long hall dps session sustainably fight after fight after fight and how it stacks up.

(Unfortunately I already know … because my 60 epic troll shaman has done this kind of exercise in the past).

Ps I recommend against spamming JBB as its dps won’t be nearly enough.

PPS: chain casting ice strike precisely every 7 seconds with no lag, fizzle, or partial resist has a 96 dps potential. Unfortunately you’ll have to be taking time to canni and torpor, so actual expected dps is going to be lower. Remember you got about 50dps worth of “bad pet” to make up the difference for before you actually start competing with mage DS and mage nukes.

I wish you luck and am very interested to see your findings. And remember!! While you are furiously mashing buttons non stop trying to put out these numbers, my mage did it causally chatting and peacefully meditating and checking the stock market … standing up to sling a few nukes. Super chill, very relaxing xp and loot grind session.

[PlsNoBan]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gamparse is a good program. There are others out there but it does a good job. It has different viewing tabs to include one that gives you the spam of the raw logs. I recommend you turn on other’s damage hits so you can parse your group mates as well. Remember, the goal here is to see how much dps a shaman can do in a fast paced, fast killing full group. Mine included charm pet (most of the time), another mage with epic, and a tunare/ST monk other than myself.

That is the scope of this topic, this thread, and therefore the burden of proof is to show us how great your shaman is at doing it.

Regarding your disputable/undisputable jab, I can unfortunately predict where this is going. Once you fail to show that a shaman can keep up with respectable dps (or at least as good as you think you can) under these conditions I fully expect your next angle will to say that what I’ve provided (took all of 5 minutes to compile and another 5 to screenshot a jpg of) is “disputable”. I hope my prediction is wrong.

Sad thing is I have a shaman with all the same spells/levels and the same pet it’s yours. Your best bet is going to be slinging your highest hitting ice nuke repeatedly if mobs are dying fast. Bane and especially Pox are going to be underperforming mana hogs with high speed fights.

The question is will you be able to sling enough ice nukes frequently/fast enough (with canni mana regeneration advantage). Remember: mage nukes cast faster, hit harder, are more mana efficient. You’ll have more mana to play with but unlike your pet, the level 60 mage water pet isn’t a joke.

I’m interested in what you can put out over a long hall dps session sustainably fight after fight after fight and how it stacks up.

(Unfortunately I already know … because my 60 epic troll shaman has done this kind of exercise in the past).

Ps I recommend against spamming JBB as its dps won’t be nearly enough.

PPS: chain casting ice strike precisely every 7 seconds with no lag, fizzle, or partial resist has a 96 dps potential. Unfortunately you’ll have to be taking time to canni and torpor, so actual expected dps is going to be lower. Remember you got about 50dps worth of “bad pet” to make up the difference for before you actually start competing with mage DS and mage nukes.

I wish you luck and am very interested to see your findings. And remember!! While you are furiously mashing buttons non stop trying to put out these numbers, my mage did it causally chatting and peacefully meditating and checking the stock market … standing up to sling a few nukes. Super chill, very relaxing xp and loot grind session.

You clearly don't understand math. If you math hard enough your shaman will outdps your mage while tanking and healing and debuffing and canni spamming all at the same time.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your best bet is going to be slinging your highest hitting ice nuke repeatedly if mobs are dying fast. Bane and especially Pox are going to be underperforming mana hogs with high speed fights.

The question is will you be able to sling enough ice nukes frequently/fast enough (with canni mana regeneration advantage). Remember: mage nukes cast faster, hit harder, are more mana efficient. You’ll have more mana to play with but unlike your pet, the level 60 mage water pet isn’t a joke.

Yeah, rapid chain pulls tend to play to the magician's favor. The shaman'll like having moderate gaps where both might burst while in combat but afterward the shaman'll recover more quickly than the magician can.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, rapid chain pulls tend to play to the magician's favor. The shaman'll like having moderate gaps where both might burst while in combat but afterward the shaman'll recover more quickly than the magician can.

Do you even math ? Clearly you don’t understand math . It’s all written out if you look at the math . I’m not the troll, everyone else is clearly not reading the math .

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regarding your disputable/undisputable jab, I can unfortunately predict where this is going. Once you fail to show that a shaman can keep up with respectable dps (or at least as good as you think you can) under these conditions I fully expect your next angle will to say that what I’ve provided (took all of 5 minutes to compile and another 5 to screenshot a jpg of) is “disputable”. I hope my prediction is wrong
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