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[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Deep down if you are a common working person and identify with Boris Johnson (an upper class wealthy man who acts like a baffoon despite being fiercely intelligent and has been caught out being PUBLICALLY racist) then something is likely amiss.

The whole thing with Corbyn and anti semitism i am activley looking at. If true it's an issue, but in fairness just as much as an issue as Johnson ragging on muslims.

What i DO know is he was arrested for refusing to pay poll tax (something he could EASIIIIILY afford) and arrested for protesting against anti apartheid. Ever hear of Boris Johnson protesting against anything? Being strong armed away by the police? Nor have i.

He is far more the common person representing the interests of the common person.

[Jimjam]

Is Corbin really antisemite? He seems to dislike Israel, but that isn't exactly the same thing.

He seems willing to be forge discourse instead of stonewalling, which I view as important to facilitate the peace process. Ironically the Good Friday agreement that ended the troubles, but also impedes Brexit was impart due to Brexit: I guess as a Eurosceptic his negotiating down of terrorists ended up being his own undoing!

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Exactly my thoughts. I'm not fully sure where the whole anti semite thing comes from (thus me needed to investigate).

I <do> know where Boris johnsons stuff comes from because it was caught on camera with sufficient witnesses.

Regardless any common working class person who votes for Mr Johnson is either deluding themselves into thinking they are a higher class than they are (which the Tories will be MORE than happy to cure their delusions of) or are voting for the person and not the party too much.

It's been so long since the UK has had a REAL labour government (Diet Tory Tony Blair doesnt count). Think Carry on Films and a real labour government is more the time line afaik.

People say "whaaaa Corbyn hasnt been effective". Yes well to be fair he has no real POWER as he isn't "IN" power.

Seems clear to me we either take a chance with actual change or just leave the hands of the UK in the upper class wealthy elites who have shown their hand for the past 9 years.

Also calling a general election when students are JUST coming home for the xmas so they likely will not be voting (because so many dont realize you can REGISTER to vote in 2 places). Dick move. Truely the calculated move of the desperate.

Its no coincidence that this was done, the tories know the majority of young people are going to vote labour. By tactically trying to exclude them they increase their share. Despicable tactics.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

All i know is my area is fully privatised buses. Local bus company has the monopoly. Prices hikes all the time.

Its my ONLY option to get to work and they know it. Any discounts, offers etc do not apply before 9am (E.g. when people go to work).

Comrade did not originate from communist roots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comrade

I dunno what to tell you, it may be they are indeed using it in the communist way but also possible because Labour members are naturally more a group of people with shared ideals. I dont think its far of a stretch to say all that connects Tory members is the love of money and power....HONESTLY i mean that.

In general someone with socialist views (actual socialist views) are less likely to screw over a colleague for monetary gain.

The same cannot be said about someone with more capitalist views. Let be honest.

Perhaps i will have less control than i want but i know it will be harder for the COUNTRY to be held to ransom by another country. If any of these EU countries which own massive parts of our power, water, rail etc have economic issues how will they get some easy money?

Yep, by jacking up the prices of OUR services.

Not what i call taking power back. Sounds to me like making quick money NOW and hoping things work out later.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Austerity is just controlled poverty. It would work if they not just obviously giving contracts for government stuff to their mates and getting kickbacks.

It's all so obvious and they are laughing at the common people because we are powerless to anything about it (E.g. carillion collapsing with the ceos earning millions)

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Hoppkins_Wytchfinder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Austerity is just controlled poverty. It would work if they not just obviously giving contracts for government stuff to their mates and getting kickbacks.

It's all so obvious and they are laughing at the common people because we are powerless to anything about it (E.g. carillion collapsing with the ceos earning millions)

I thought the tories already declared and end to Austerity?

Its interesting you mention it though, as according to The Sun I saw at Asda today, apparently BoJo is promising to end it (again) after he 'sorts Brexit out'. The stuff in The Sun and the Daily Mail is incredibly persuasive, especially emotionally, until you start trying to verify the claims ('Rampant antisemitism', costs, budgets, promises which are made in duplicate each political cycle and never delivered, etc).

[Teppler]

So are the elites still dangling brexit in front of the common people as something they will maybe do for them when they feel like it?

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So are the elites still dangling brexit in front of the common people as something they will maybe do for them when they feel like it?

Trump got that wall built yet? Or is it still stuck being built in Colorado?

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Hoppkins_Wytchfinder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trump got that wall built yet? Or is it still stuck being built in Colorado?

You are correct in pointing out our failure with the wall. That’s similar but not quite as bad imo. You guys voted directly on brexit and you’re getting cucked. We voted for trump not the wall. It’s still not a good look that the wall is going up extremely slow at best but I don’t think it’s quite as bad as voting directly for brexit only for your elites to say nope that does t work out for us.

[Thrombosis]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So are the elites still dangling brexit in front of the common people as something they will maybe do for them when they feel like it?

Basically if Boris gets a decent majority in Parliament, we will have left* by the end of January 2020. Any other result and Brexit won't happen imo.

*I know we'll only be in the "transition" period, which is pretty awful as we're subject to many of the controls that EU member states are, but we will have technically left.