Raiding Guild Behavior

[getsome]

Originally Posted by paroxysmal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fourth (current) suspension period started with Getsome being statedly unavailable to start negotiations, however, became available shortly after KT was fte'd by AG and killed by CSG after the suspension period had began but before a rotation was in place.

This statement is incorrect. Talks started @ 9 pm est Sunday and concluded @ 12:30 AM Monday morning with an agreement. The group of guilds finalized the agreement before KT was killed. Gogre was representing F/V in the talks the entire time.

[paroxysmal]

Originally Posted by getsome [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This statement is incorrect. Talks started @ 9 pm est Sunday and concluded @ 12:30 AM Monday morning with an agreement. The group of guilds finalized the agreement before KT was killed. Gogre was representing F/V in the talks the entire time.

Thanks for clarifying getsome, as I said right below my post I'm sure that I got some things wrong. I did try my best to piece the events of the rotations through the past few raid suspensions including the current one together so people that were not involved would be able to understand the complexity of the issues we are dealing with and the progression of guild attitudes from first through fourth as they have changed each time.

[Breaken]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The raid scene is a great place when both A/As are on suspension. Things are rotated, some are FFA, people are respected and petitions are a myth.

Last time both guilds were suspended, the rotations worked for one week then went to shit. This time, I've already seen video of FoH/Anonymous issues with Telk.

Things are not as peachy as you imply.

Edit: Bruize beat me to it, but yes, that.

[aaezil]

Just make it so 3 raid suspensions = guild is dissolved and all members banned. The kids will shape up in no time.

[Samoht]

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[Daldaen]

Promote me to Lead Raid Scene GM.

I will fix the raid scene here.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Velious already released, checkmate dummy

[Troxx]

Guild leaders and officers should be required to register their official in game accounts. Raid suspensions and repeat offenses should result in leader/officer accounts being handed down actual game suspensions for 30 days - and eventually outright banned if guild behavior stays problematic requiring GM intervention.

What do you want to bet guild leaders would police themselves more aggressively and/or be more likely to work things out between respective guilds?

Alternately you could suspend all accounts with associated guild tagged characters for the duration of the raid suspension - or make the raid suspensions more severe to the order of a solid 30 days.

The warring 2 guilds would quickly behave themselves or dissolve/degrade.

[Erati]

the only thing A/A has done which is truely negative in people's eyes is 'tried harder' than everyone else aka showing up for mob windows utilizing the posted server rules

the reason this upsets so many people is they feel that they 'shouldnt have to' do the same thing ( track ) in order to experience Classic EQ Raiding.

If A/A were to be nuked off the map, the hope for the casuals is that they will be able to raid without tracking but sadly this has been proven time and time again to be like finding Bigfoot.

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the only thing A/A has done which is truely negative in people's eyes is 'tried harder' than everyone else aka showing up for mob windows utilizing the posted server rules

That's why they've had so many raid suspensions for everything from training to crying wolf, right? Because they just try harder and show up for the spawn window? Gtfo, jackass. It's because they shit all over competitors. And since nobody wants to get shit, nobody else shows up. Except A/A. I guess they enjoy eating each others' shit.