End of the rotation?

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[Man0warr]

1 hour engage means everyone has to camp out toons, track hard, and basically poopsock anyway

If you can't mobilize and kill any mob outside of VP within an hour with no competition, then your guild is completely fucked in a month or whatever Velious hits after Mischief is debugged.

That's the major thrust behind this. What are the small guilds going to do when the classes are gone? Better to figure it out now than later.

3 hour engages have made every Class R guild bad.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can't mobilize and kill any mob outside of VP within an hour with no competition, then your guild is completely fucked in a month or whatever Velious hits after Mischief is debugged.

We at The A-Team plan to not suck in Velious. We are building up our guild by recruiting, killing targets on Velious beta, and preparing to do FFA targets against real competition.

Our plan does not including squeezing the R rotation.

[Ninjax]

BDA had largely been the seeming puppet of the smaller guilds and this resulted in a rotation that was created on their terms and served their purposes (getting loot). BDA has thankfully seen through this manipulation and proposed something that would actually reward competition and competence while still protecting a guild from having to poopsock.

The result was predictable. The smaller guilds who had claimed they were not in it for loot (while creating a rotation that gave them the more loot due to how alliances work) complained that this now gives them less loot while chastising BDA for wanting more loot. The hypocrisy is not lost even if some are deluding themselves about their motivations. This delusion goes so far as that some guilds have simply decided to pretend the former rotation is still in play and that not coming to terms with the offer on the table means that they will get perhaps 1/20th of the mobs they did before.

If this is what they desire then so be it, if this is what their reality-averse brains cannot begin to comprehend - so be it. Reality is a harsh mistress and cares not for what fantasies of how she operates you've constructed because they are comfortable to believe.

BDA, Taken, and Divinity shall rule class R as the Trinity. As it has been proclaimed so shall it be.

[Man0warr]

Then I don't see why you have issues with tighter engage windows if you are serious about raiding in Velious with zero engage window guaranteed.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then I don't see why you have issues with tighter engage windows if you are serious about raiding in Velious with zero engage window guaranteed.

Our last trakanon kill took 1:20 from when he spawned. Of that, 20 minutes was spent tracking/sending out the batphone (because we don't want our people glued to the screen there), 20 minutes getting people tidy up whatever they were doing in RL and log on, 20 minutes mobilizing, and 20 minutes killing Trakanon and his guards.

So reducing that to 1 hour primarily involves tracking harder, logging on instantly, and camping out accounts. We would basically be doing the same amount of work as FFA anyway.

[captnamazing]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Our last trakanon kill took 1:20 from when he spawned. Of that, 20 minutes was spent tracking/sending out the batphone (because we don't want our people glued to the screen there), 20 minutes getting people tidy up whatever they were doing in RL and log on, 20 minutes mobilizing, and 20 minutes killing Trakanon and his guards.

So reducing that to 1 hour primarily involves tracking harder, logging on instantly, and camping out accounts. We would basically be doing the same amount of work as FFA anyway.

Lol brah, on your last trak you had to run to cab because you forgot your PR gear. This is truth from your mouth to me. Not having your PR on you is just bad!

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[kaev]

Originally Posted by captnamazing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol brah, ... your PR ... is just bad!

I see what you did there

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So BDA's reasoning for making these tiers is to prepare smaller guilds for Velious so they don't get absorbed?

Does anyone believe that BDA is doing this for altruistic reasons and not just pixel greed?

My next concern is, How can Taken poopsock Trakanon with almost 80 people and not be moved into Class C?

WIll the staff allow a guild to run roughshod over the entire tier due to them not wanting to compete with TMO?