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Old 12-21-2016, 08:19 PM
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Trollololol was definitely part of the inner clique of BDA. Moardots would have had the dopest gear and loot rained on him in the following weeks after our first Vulak kill.

I certainly understand loot council frustrations but they genuinely try to be as fair and transparent as possible, they even started posting loot data.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:25 PM
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So you don't know that average members are getting "junk" and that the Officers are all getting BiS, but you'll sit and argue as if it were true? Why is it likely if you don't have the facts? Because you assume it's what they'd do? Is it what you'd do if you were an Officer?
I literally just said I don't know the current status of BDA's loot distribution because I haven't been around it for a few months now. I can only draw from my past experience as I was a regular raider for around 2 years. It's possible in the couple months since I left things have changed from how they were for 2 years. I find it unlikely but I never said it was impossible. History has a tendency of repeating itself. Although I suppose it's possible that it caused enough waves when I left over blatant LC favoritism that they switched it up a bit. One of the people in BDA I keep in contact with said things have improved a bit since I left. Who knows. I hope that me leaving caused things to improve if for no other reason than the BDA people I'm still friends with being treated fairly. I know not all of them have felt they were treated fairly in the past.

Also yes for the record I've said it before and will say it again now. I wouldn't trust myself in a loot council position. I would ABSOLUTELY be more likely to want to give my friends loot over people who might actually be more deserving. I could easily see myself voting against somebody getting loot based solely on me not liking them personally. Loot council leaves WAY too much room for bias whether conscious or not and I think loot goes to people the officers like more often than it goes to who actually earned it very very often. At least that seemed to be the case when I was a member. It's possible that it's not even happening consciously and its just a subconscious thing that the officers aren't even aware is happening. But I don't think I was imagining it and I don't think the other people that brought it up to me were imagining it either.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:35 PM
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zero examples aside from troll not getting the robe he desired, thanks4shaere
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:40 PM
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Also yes for the record I've said it before and will say it again now. I wouldn't trust myself in a loot council position. I would ABSOLUTELY be more likely to want to give my friends loot over people who might actually be more deserving. I could easily see myself voting against somebody getting loot based solely on me not liking them personally.
Well it's a good thing it is a loot council and not a loot person, and it is filled with people who are aware of their own biases and not afraid to compromise and come to a consensus that is best for the guild
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:42 PM
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Hey Chest, didn't you spend years on P99 without getting an upgrade on your monk and only rot upgrades for your alts, yet you still ran raids practically every day or otherwise logged spell bots and taught people how to raid so they could advance their toons?

If what Troll says is true and history is repeating itself, you sir, are corrupt as hell.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:51 PM
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Hey Chest, didn't you spend years on P99 without getting an upgrade on your monk and only rot upgrades for your alts, yet you still ran raids practically every day or otherwise logged spell bots and taught people how to raid so they could advance their toons?

If what Troll says is true and history is repeating itself, you sir, are corrupt as hell.
As far as P99 goes it's not like he was passing on upgrades for his monk left and right. He had the best gear he could get and nothing BDA was capable/willing to raid dropped upgrades for him. Whenever something dropped that actually was an upgrade for him it pretty much went to him 100% of the time. PD Crown/Robe.etc
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:55 PM
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As far as P99 goes it's not like he was passing on upgrades for his monk left and right. He had the best gear he could get and nothing BDA was capable/willing to raid dropped upgrades for him. Whenever something dropped that actually was an upgrade for him it pretty much went to him 100% of the time. PD Crown/Robe.etc
But he still came to all those raids for years despite there not being any upgrades BDA could get for him. Doesn't add up.
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Old 12-21-2016, 09:59 PM
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But he still came to all those raids for years despite there not being any upgrades BDA could get for him. Doesn't add up.
Pretty sure he was holding out for P99 raid scene to change in a way that would allow BDA to progress without turning into Awakened/Aftermath. When it became apparent that it was never going to happen he decided to move the whole guild to phinigel very shortly after.
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:01 PM
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But he still came to all those raids for years despite there not being any upgrades BDA could get for him. Doesn't add up.
O shit here comes a 4 paragraph rebuttal!
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It's textbook definition of a corrupt loot system.
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Old 12-21-2016, 10:05 PM
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O shit here comes a 4 paragraph rebuttal!
Try 2 sentences

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