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[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we're weaker poorer and less free than before 9/11. its not really up for debate.

i like to think you are dishonest instead of stupid, its a entertaining way to be [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Numbers don't lie. Average household salary remains 20K lower pre 9/11to '08 .

Home ownership poised to hit record lows for the DURATION of Generation Millennial. That's a prediction for the next 40 years.

But Wall Street is up a few points whoohoo...

Let's just say the Nose King isn't going to be the Julius Caesar reformer who singlehandedly returns this country to 1990's prosperity.

[Pokesan]

lol at citing wall street as proof of economic health get real dude

[AzzarTheGod]

Oh almost forgot kids.

Cost of labor is record low. That means people are doing the same work for less money.

#Reaganomics #WallstreetMatters

[Sear]

but coal is teh future

and trickle-down economics, even though it's been disproven by decades of statistics on the actual results of 1%'ers selling that snake oil on blue-collar 'Muricans who don't realize they're being hoodwinked

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[AenorVZ]

Do I have this right? Russia is threatening to stage a ren fest over new sanctions?

https://twitter.com/Russia/status/892832078781444097

[AzzarTheGod]

That is one issue I split with Liberals on for a couple of reasons.

1) I don't know of any apparent security threats Russia poses for the last 20 years since the Cold War ended and the USSR disbanded

2) Russia seems to be mostly about maintaining sovereignty and improving outcome for their own country

3) Despite #2, there isn't any imperialist action against territories that were not already a part of Russia under the USSR. Rather, the alleged imperial activity is aimed against territories that are predominantly Russian (Crimea). And it is very selective against very specific regions, which disqualifies it as imperial. When we secured and secretly annexed (done back-channel with Panama basically giving the US military legitimacy to operate and giving them land to exist on) a piece of Panama for national security interests was that imperialist?

It would be like Texas and California saying fuck off and the USA saying "hey wait a minute, not so fast kid" 25 years later. During the US expansion, we ripped off and wheeled and dealed to Manifest Destiny across the entire Bible Belt to the Pacific Northwest. Why the double standard?

How is all this fitting of the buzzword fear-mongering term "Aggression"? That is propaganda where I come from. The spirit of the name-dropping "Russia + Aggression" is opposite of what is actually going on. Essentially its a Jewish word game. Its not Russian aggression, its Russia tying up some loose ends in their region which they have a right to do as long as it does not negatively impact the national security of the United States.

Taking back some of your property and ensuring fair economic negotiations on oil deals is not "aggression". Its merely the function of a healthy state. Some of you are acting like orc pawns of Zion over this shit because some Jewish banker is angry he wasn't selected as one of Vladimir Putin's 6-7 Jewish oligarchs (Thats right, the Russian oligarchs are all Jewish). What the Zions are pissed about is that their Jew didn't get the oligarch appointment when the USSR property was distributed in the 1990's.

You can literally feel the jealousy and personal anger towards the Russian oligarchs in the Jewish-American Zionist media. Its sort of transparent, but I don't expect you guys to understand why Jews would be mad at Jews who got chosen over them for a very large multi-billion dollar distribution. That might be above your paygrade.

Yeah tell me I'm an idiot or a retard or a Nazi. You might not realize it, but in certain parts of the country we just call the above position on Russia "common sense".

[Swish]

Russia is still in a tricky position, there's many loose ends. If you were Russia and NATO was all around your border, what would you do?

Luckily for them they have plenty of resources, and are making a killing these days exporting things like natural gas...its just a shame that Gazprom is only 50.23% government owned. Think of the defence spending potential if that were 100%

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol at citing wall street as proof of economic health get real dude

when you pump trillions of free dollars into the economy through massive financial institutions no risk of failure, executive focus on sort term profitability and no attractive alternatives, what should we expect to happen?

can't stoke consumption if consumers ain't got no fuel (^。~)v

[chris.hijiri]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is one issue I split with Liberals on for a couple of reasons.

1) I don't know of any apparent security threats Russia poses for the last 20 years since the Cold War ended and the USSR disbanded

2) Russia seems to be mostly about maintaining sovereignty and improving outcome for their own country

3) Despite #2, there isn't any imperialist action against territories that were not already a part of Russia under the USSR. Rather, the alleged imperial activity is aimed against territories that are predominantly Russian (Crimea). And it is very selective against very specific regions, which disqualifies it as imperial. When we secured and secretly annexed (done back-channel with Panama basically giving the US military legitimacy to operate and giving them land to exist on) a piece of Panama for national security interests was that imperialist?

It would be like Texas and California saying fuck off and the USA saying "hey wait a minute, not so fast kid" 25 years later. During the US expansion, we ripped off and wheeled and dealed to Manifest Destiny across the entire Bible Belt to the Pacific Northwest. Why the double standard?

How is all this fitting of the buzzword fear-mongering term "Aggression"? That is propaganda where I come from. The spirit of the name-dropping "Russia + Aggression" is opposite of what is actually going on. Essentially its a Jewish word game. Its not Russian aggression, its Russia tying up some loose ends in their region which they have a right to do as long as it does not negatively impact the national security of the United States.

Taking back some of your property and ensuring fair economic negotiations on oil deals is not "aggression". Its merely the function of a healthy state. Some of you are acting like orc pawns of Zion over this shit because some Jewish banker is angry he wasn't selected as one of Vladimir Putin's 6-7 Jewish oligarchs (Thats right, the Russian oligarchs are all Jewish). What the Zions are pissed about is that their Jew didn't get the oligarch appointment when the USSR property was distributed in the 1990's.

You can literally feel the jealousy and personal anger towards the Russian oligarchs in the Jewish-American Zionist media. Its sort of transparent, but I don't expect you guys to understand why Jews would be mad at Jews who got chosen over them for a very large multi-billion dollar distribution. That might be above your paygrade.

Yeah tell me I'm an idiot or a retard or a Nazi. You might not realize it, but in certain parts of the country we just call the above position on Russia "common sense".

Crimea/Ukraine separated (along with others) after the fall of communist Russia. Crimea-Ukraine then signed a treat with Russia so the could keep their Navy base on the Coast (and renewed it as early as 2010) Russia betrayed that treaty by secretly deploying troops in unmarked uniforms to take Crimea.

If your communist country falls apart and some crazy guy tries to rebuild it 20 years later you don't get to reclaim every country back. The situation isn't even remotely comparable.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we're weaker poorer and less free than before 9/11. its not really up for debate.

i like to think you are dishonest instead of stupid, its a entertaining way to be [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so says the internet and unemployed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]