Red99 Stimulus Plan (some constructive feedback) - Page 54

Humerox · #**531** 01-04-2012, 05:09 PM

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spear of the nation would transform into PVP Trade Federation if item loot was out

and camp what? Runnyeye?

:P

Doublestep · #**532** 01-04-2012, 05:12 PM

you guys would just let everyone else clear dragons then wipe em

Doublestep · #**533** 01-04-2012, 05:12 PM

sell them back their gear at a 100% markup from trade forum

oldfish · #**534** 01-04-2012, 05:12 PM

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you guys would just let everyone else clear dragons then wipe em

Or you could just fuck off to SWTOR and not pollute the one thread thats useful

Humerox · #**535** 01-04-2012, 05:14 PM

we're talking about this stage of the server lol.

the only guilds dragon capable atm are Holo and Nihi

there's legitimacy to the item loot thing. i'm pro item loot myself. the problem is, people don't see the forest for the trees. item loot may work for Holo and Nihi atm, but everyone else would be stuck wearing cloth at the end of the day.

i don't think some people are actually trolling...i just think they dont understand all the implications item loot would have right now. for most, replacing that robe some twink alt just took off them while they were lom and blissfully medding with their group would take a month of farming to replace. and it's not like NFP is full of traders, either.

has anyone looked at what people are wearing right now? sans twinks, Holo and Nihi that is.

Doublestep · #**536** 01-04-2012, 05:16 PM

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Or you could just fuck off to SWTOR and not pollute the one thread thats useful

wow bro calm down im allowed to browse the forums while im on lunch

Slave · #**537** 01-04-2012, 05:17 PM

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But it also would effectively negate the anti-pk game...sustainability in the R99 economy isn't what is was on RZ. Item loot would be much more acceptable after the server has aged.

don't u see how item loot would be detrimental at this stage of the server?

Er... what?

The anti-pk game would finally be firmly established: PKs are usually those with more skill and items trying to impose their lulz on weaker players. The antis gang up, finally kill the nasty PK and get to loot an item off him like he was a boss mob. This is all good for the antis, and for the server as a whole. More reason to PvP = more PvP.

There is no reason to PvP currently other than the lulz. There is no item loot mechanic, no teams, no mana loss on death... it's exactly as if nobody on the development team ever played on a PvP server, and then ignored anyone who ever did.

This is not what it was like in The Year 2000. This is not classic Everquest PvP. THIS IS WHY the server is drastically falling in population on a noticeably daily basis.

Doublestep · #**538** 01-04-2012, 05:20 PM

i actually think it would be awesome if there was some big mean ass "Mountain" that beat up all the little kiddos into forming a raid to take him down and claim his sword

jk primes cant be looted

oldfish · #**539** 01-04-2012, 05:20 PM

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There is no item loot mechanic, no teams, no mana loss on death... it's exactly as if nobody on the development team ever played on a PvP server, and then ignored anyone who ever did.

This is not what it was like in The Year 2000. This is not classic Everquest PvP.

I will agree on the no item loot, but the rest is just complaining the devs dont see things your way. No teams = not classic? LOL

Youre trolling Slave, and I think Nilbog is getting fed up with people stirring shit up for the sake of stirring shit up, i smell a ban.

Softcore PK · #**540** 01-04-2012, 05:27 PM

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I just dont get why you want to inflict such a harsh penalty over dying in pvp. The only reason i can think of is you want some kind of poopcamp control mechanic.

Problem with going along with that, is if you get a Zerg guild with 2X the numbers of players than the rest of any guild on the server, its basically GG for the server, they get the content, every time, no contest.

You cant attempt a 25v45 raid content contest with a heavy xp loss. People will do it a couple of times, get burned and give up (which is what you want i guess). Each time people will get burned, the harder it will be to gather enough people to try to contest raid content the next time.

With no xp loss, the 25 players will probably get their asses handed to them, but at least they get to have fun attempting to do it, and the 45 side can at least have some opposition, which is what a pvp server is supposed to be about.

Heavy xp loss is a surefire recipe to get people bored and logging off the server. This is true through all levels of the game.

This is probably true, exp loss like that really would discourage pvp. I'm just trying to think of ways to deter bindrushing at max level, because judging by the rants forum it IS starting to happen a lot. Do you have any ideas?