Myconid Spore King - Monk Solo - Page 54

Samoht · #1 07-09-2025, 01:35 PM

So wait, what was his fourth character then? Since he refused to cut the shaman for the mage/necro, he cut the cleric instead?

Crede · #2 07-09-2025, 02:05 PM

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So wait, what was his fourth character then? Since he refused to cut the shaman for the mage/necro, he cut the cleric instead?

It's hard to say, as he continuously moved the goalpost and did a TON of rogue edits(still does), like every post he was editing multiple times and by the time you responded to it it was a completely different post than the original one he provided.

I believe he started with Shaman Enchanter Enchanter Cleric. Then when people just said 3x enc + cleric or 2x enc/cleric/wiz for mobility, I think that might have been when he swapped in the shaman for the cleric as a last ditch effort.

Would love to see an AI summary of that thread, lol.

loramin · #3 07-09-2025, 01:56 PM

You're pretending the original page was "official". As the creator of that page, I can assure you it was wasn't. If you read the original version of the page, it says as much:

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The original Solo Artist Challenge was started in this forum thread by Loraen, but a new version which incorporates Velious is now being worked on by players in the forums.

To serve as a basis for this, I have included the original challenge below:

I just went with Loraen's version in the hope of creating a starting point for others to improve. Sadly, the forum thread I referenced went nowhere, and then instead of the page being improved, we got a forum/wiki fight.

But again, the wiki is not for anyone to enforce their playstyle on anyone else. It's to benefit the community, and I still believe a solo artist challenge page can do that ... as long as people start being cooperative and constructive instead of fighting.

Samoht · #4 07-09-2025, 02:00 PM

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As the creator of that page

Oh, shit. I didn't look that far back in the history, but that pretty much settles it. DSM does not get to dictate to anybody what they do with their own page. Looks like DSM needs to create his own fork of the SAC now...

loramin · #5 07-09-2025, 02:02 PM

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Oh, shit. I didn't look that far back in the history, but that pretty much settles it. DSM does not get to dictate to anybody what they do with their own page. Looks like DSM needs to create his own fork of the SAC now...

To be clear, it's not "my" page, or your's, or anyone else's. That's not how a wiki works: everything in it (except Magelo's and guides with names in them) is "owned" by everyone.

loramin · #6 07-09-2025, 02:02 PM

Multiple people (yourself included) edited it to enforce their viewpoint. All of them (including you) were wrong to do so. Again, the wiki does not have many rules ... but "don't be an asshole, edit the wiki to make it better for everyone" is one of the rare golden ones it absolutely does have.

Now the page had an invitation to edit it, so I didn't apply wiki justice to anyone for editing it ... but now that I've been 100% clear with everyone involved, I will apply wiki penalties to anyone who edits ANY page for their own benefit instead of the community's.

(And I just wasted many hours of my life cleaning up thousands of spam posts from someone who disagreed ... don't test me.)

DeathsSilkyMist · #7 07-09-2025, 02:03 PM

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Multiple people (yourself included) edited it to enforce their viewpoint. All of them (including you) were wrong to do so. Again, the wiki does not have many rules ... but "don't be an asshole, edit the wiki to make it better for everyone" is one of the rare golden ones it absolutely does have.

Now the page had an invitation to edit it, so I didn't apply wiki justice to anyone for editing it ... but now that I've been 100% clear with everyone involved, I will apply wiki penalties to anyone who edits ANY page for their own benefit instead of the community's.

(And I just wasted many hours of my life cleaning up thousands of spam posts from someone who disagreed ... don't test me.)

I just reverted literal troll changes to the page. I did not add anything. Why are you defending people changing that wiki page to troll OP by giving him a lower score?

Samoht · #8 07-09-2025, 02:04 PM

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I did not add anything.

You never do...

loramin · #9 07-09-2025, 02:04 PM

I'm saying you were both wrong. Period, full stop.

They edited the wiki with their opinions, without getting consensus from the community or trying to make those edits work for the community. You just blindly undid their edits, instead of trying to incorporate them into the page in a way that works for both of you.

Again, the right way to edit the wiki is to think "what would be good for everyone reading this?" and make that change. No one involved did that, so you all failed.

DeathsSilkyMist · #10 07-09-2025, 02:06 PM

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I'm saying you were both wrong. Period, full stop.

They edited the wiki with their opinions, without getting consensus from the community or trying to make those edits work for the community. You just blindly undid their edits, instead of trying to incorporate them into the page in a way that works for both of you.

Do you honestly believe Samoht and Zuranthium added those changes in good faith? Should they be left in there?

It wasn't blind, the evidence is in this thread that they are trolling OP.