Best solo melee class?

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by bcbrown [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Appreciate the data point. I'd love it if you'd read that thread and give your thoughts. One conclusion is that there's a mob-specific "squelch point" above which there's minimal hits for max damage, and more AC above that value isn't helpful. For level 40-45 mobs that value is around 150-200 worn AC. How much worn AC was in your normal set and what level were the mobs you were fighting?

I call it weak/minimally meaningful data because this was in Kunark, I was in my high 50's, the sessions ranged from Karnor's basement to Seb, and it was long enough ago that I don't remember what my worn AC was. So mobs ranging from mid 40's to low 50's (krups). Also tanked Emperor Chottal; god bless my poor healer. It was about as much AC as you were capable of getting at the time with droppables/not raid gear... gem encrusted ring, targishins bone mask, idol of the thorned instead of a bow, etc etc.

It resulted in... really an intuition rather than a conclusion at the time that the extra AC wasn't really noticeable but losing the resistances certainly was.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem is that there is no point engaging with someone who has a very poor capacity for logic themselves. Your ability to coherently progress from premises to conclusions across multiple variables is pitiful and embarrassing; your "arguments" are rhetoric disguised as reasoning.

It should be a clue for you that almost everyone who engages with you eventually realizes this; in thread after thread, you develop this reputation. It took me two years and being on a different account that didn't have you on ignore to make this mistake again.

Your dishonestly about my posts and your clear bias are the biggest clue here.

People can read the posts you provided and see your analysis of my posts and positions are incorrect.

If you want to take the easy path and use the ad populum falllacy, I can't stop you.

"The opinion of 10,000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject." - Marcus Aurelius

Originally Posted by Ephirith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What they didn't teach you in your undergrad writing class is that appeal to authority isn't a fallacy when the conduct of your argument is generating such a negative consensus about you that it's undermining your ability to effectively engage with the community. It's like a man waving his dick at traffic and chastising all the honking cars for honking instead of using 'logic'.

Facts, math, logic, and in-game evidence trump authority every time. A person can level all classes to 60, and they would still be wrong if they said something factually incorrect.

You are also acting quite poorly with the insults and lies. Perhaps fix yourself before trying to fix others.

[zelld52]

There are entire pages of this post that are hidden from me. Ah, well. Was it anything good?

[Naethyn]

Chapter 5: Real AC vs. Displayed AC

While it comes as a shock to many, a person's displayed AC actually means relatively nothing. Displayed AC is affected by many things and in no way has no bearing on a persons Real AC (rAC).

Real AC is calculated using the following formula:

rAC = SoftCap + Shield + [ WornAC - (SoftCap + Shield) ]*OvercapReturn

Overcap Returns (Subject to Change):

Warrior: 0.45
SK/Pal/Monk: 0.33
Rang: 0.17
Silk: 0.02

The rest of you shouldnt be tanking, reason (Silk Overcap Return = 0.02)


Example:

Zyric has a worn AC of 2500, (This can be found using Magelo under Worn AC + Aug AC)

Shadowknight SoftCap = 915 (This changes for each class, consult your CC or respective community to find yours)

Shield AC = 218

Shadowknight OvercapReturn = 0.33

Zyric's rAC = 915 + 218 + [ 2500 - (915 + 218) ]*0.33 = 1584

While Zyric's ingame Displayed AC may be 5000, in reality his rAC is only 1584.


Displayed AC and its relationship to Raw AC:

Displayed AC = Raw AC * 1.575

If you get a 10 Raw AC upgrade, for instance upgrading from a 25AC aug to a 35AC aug, your displayed AC will actually increase by 15.75; not just by 10. **The 1.575 is a standard fudge factor for all classes excluding rogues and silkies**

Yes I realize this is from a later expansion, but if you consider how negative AC works, ranger is almost dead last on this list for how much of a negative they receive.

[Duik]

Are we still talking clickies?

This is one thread i was *actially* interested in.
Never had a decent ranger (or pally/SK for that matter).

There was hopefully gonna be an easily sortable forumy kinda list of ideas/options. Instead, it starts kinda well then the usual shitfuck begins.

There is only a certain number of ways you can say the same thing. (It's one)
So telling us clickies save mana and make a positive effect on the ability to "solo".
It's said. It's done. There is Good points, there is Bad points. Please let the reader decide.
The 20th time the same thing is said makes it sound like those old adverts on late night TV.
Ya gotta keep banging on about it until you find the weak spot in the listeners armor. Then BAM!.
Just like Janine Melnitz says on Ghostbusters.

We Got One!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are we still talking clickies?

This is one thread i was *actially* interested in.
Never had a decent ranger (or pally/SK for that matter).

There was hopefully gonna be an easily sortable forumy kinda list of ideas/options. Instead, it starts kinda well then the usual shitfuck begins.

There is only a certain number of ways you can say the same thing. (It's one)
So telling us clickies save mana and make a positive effect on the ability to "solo".
It's said. It's done. There is Good points, there is Bad points. Please let the reader decide.
The 20th time the same thing is said makes it sound like those old adverts on late night TV.
Ya gotta keep banging on about it until you find the weak spot in the listeners armor. Then BAM!.
Just like Janine Melnitz says on Ghostbusters.

We Got One!

The same logic would certainly apply to the other posters repeating their same points, bringing in off topic nonsense, posting nothing but insults repeatedly, etc.

Somehow I am always the only person getting called out, even when other people do worse things. People like to claim there is a pattern where it is always my fault, even when the post history shows otherwise.

The more interesting pattern is why other bad behavior is routinely ignored in favor of focusing on me.

[Duik]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The same logic would certainly apply to the other posters repeating their same points, bringing in off topic nonsense, posting nothing but insults repeatedly, etc.

Somehow I am always the only person getting called out, even when other people do worse things. People like to claim there is a pattern where it is always my fault, even when the post history shows otherwise.

The more interesting pattern is why other bad behavior is routinely ignored in favor of focusing on me.

Who said i was talking about you?

[Cecily]

I don't see how Tolan's gloves save mana in a group setting.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't see how Tolan's gloves save mana in a group setting.

I know. That is why you have leveled 3 Rangers to 60, and you still can't maintain your mana in a group. One day you may figure it out. The answers might be in this very thread!

[Cecily]

Feels like you're shaming me for running oom in 84 min intervals and trying to frame it as a skill issue when this isn't a thread about optimizing not leaving your chair as a 300 lb mammal. You've already established your authority on that subject. This is, however, a thread about soloing, and your argument is invalid.