The Al'Kabor Project (PC/Mac) EQmac - EverQuest done right

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Kafter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is the servers population like currently- without adding the boxed chars?

Maybe 50ish people most of the day?

It's impossible to tell how many real people are playing at any given time but logged in characters is usually around 100-120ish.

[Erasong]

People just started getting banned for expressing opinions. At least the dev/GM team here doesnt ban your characters for being a forum warrior. just your forum accounts.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by Erasong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People just started getting banned for expressing opinions. At least the dev/GM team here doesnt ban your characters for being a forum warrior. just your forum accounts.

They are facing lots of criticism. So they can get a bit testy. I don't think they are used to that kind of thing. We have learned that it comes with the territory. It is hard to spend 20-30 hrs a week, week after week, trying real hard to put out a quality product. Only to be subject to an endless barage of criticism.

They will start to handle it better. Or their devs will start dropping.

Been there. Done that. Got the t-shirt.

Don't be a dick. Their BS threshold setting is a bit on the low side.

H

[apio]

There are really only 6 people involved in the project.

Cavedude, who is also working on PEQTGC, and splits his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but coding (does an awesome job)
Robregen, who is also working on PEQTGC, and split his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but the DB (does an awesome job)
Secrets, who is also working on x other projects and split his time between all those, does not get involved in anything but coding, sometimes does some GMing(does an awesome job)
Torven, who has been doing most of the work since the project went beta DB wise, does not get involved in anything but DB and Parsing (does an awesome job)

Atri, who has been doing a bit of work on the webpage and account creation page, takes every bug report as a personal criticism, deletes posts from the forums, and got into fights with people on the forums in alpha. Has been invisible since beta launched.

Speedz, his only purpose since Beta launched has been creating a toxic playing environment. You are very welcome to proof me wrong and quote any other work he has done since beta started. He is also the only GM in charge of the community. There are 2 other GMs (Tiny and Zawayne), one of whom is never around while the other has been observed single pulling mobs on his GM character for his regular characters. This has also been reported to Speedz but apparently there were no consequences.

I know this project is going to keep developing on the technical side, there are some very bright and promising people working on it. On the people side of things however, things are looking very bleak. I am having a hard time motivating myself to "fight" my injust ban when all I have to look forward to is more of the same in the future. The guy cant even post a Poll Thread without looking completely biased, shooting down valid points and calling them "off topic" when they don't fit his narrative.

It is basically one person being in charge of everything that doesn't involve Code, and that's bad news for everyone, not just me

[Paleman]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are really only 6 people involved in the project.

Cavedude, who is also working on PEQTGC, and splits his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but coding (does an awesome job)
Robregen, who is also working on PEQTGC, and split his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but the DB (does an awesome job)
Secrets, who is also working on x other projects and split his time between all those, does not get involved in anything but coding, sometimes does some GMing(does an awesome job)
Torven, who has been doing most of the work since the project went beta DB wise, does not get involved in anything but DB and Parsing (does an awesome job)

Atri, who has been doing a bit of work on the webpage and account creation page, takes every bug report as a personal criticism, deletes posts from the forums, and got into fights with people on the forums in alpha. Has been invisible since beta launched.

Speedz, his only purpose since Beta launched has been creating a toxic playing environment. You are very welcome to proof me wrong and quote any other work he has done since beta started. He is also the only GM in charge of the community. There are 2 other GMs (Tiny and Zawayne), one of whom is never around while the other has been observed single pulling mobs on his GM character for his regular characters. This has also been reported to Speedz but apparently there were no consequences.

I know this project is going to keep developing on the technical side, there are some very bright and promising people working on it. On the people side of things however, things are looking very bleak. I am having a hard time motivating myself to "fight" my injust ban when all I have to look forward to is more of the same in the future. The guy cant even post a Poll Thread without looking completely biased, shooting down valid points and calling them "off topic" when they don't fit his narrative.

It is basically one person being in charge of everything that doesn't involve Code, and that's bad news for everyone, not just me

seems pretty easy to get along with them for me. maybe you should learn to criticize and shed light on things in a more positive way? people that run emus do it for free. They dont need to tolerate things and they dont need to be fair or unbiased. That being said the best course of action for anyone playing on one is to not be even slightly douchey.

my pappy always said, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar

[jetviper21]

Originally Posted by Paleman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

seems pretty easy to get along with them for me. maybe you should learn to criticize and shed light on things in a more positive way? people that run emus do it for free. They dont need to tolerate things and they dont need to be fair or unbiased. That being said the best course of action for anyone playing on one is to not be even slightly douchey.

my pappy always said, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar

As someone who was involved early on in this server as in pre-alpha.

Im pretty sure a lot of the GM issues boil down to speedz feels the need to micromanage the entire server. That combined with his mood swings due to his cancer is a toxic combination for anyone in change of player relations.

The other thing is they are making false claims about hacking based on tools that are reporting false positives. right now if you assist someone that is out of range it will target them and flag you as using macro quests unlimited targeting but, instead of realizing that this is broken they go around threatening pet classes for having macros with "/assist <tank>; /pet attack".

Speedz has effectively created a culture of fear no one wants to confront him because he loves to swing that ban hammer if you do not agree with him. At the same time the devs will swing the rhetoric of go create your own server while toting that they want to preserve Al'kabor. Where in they have pretty much done the opposite if Al'Kabor was to be recreated it's true form GM intervention would be very minimal. At times i get the feeling like speedz is trying to sell himself to the community as king shit but, all he really does is break things and make up weird rules.

The only problem I have had with this server is that its come down to the players vs the GM's on every little decision. There is only an illusion of a community its really people being forced to play here because no one actually wants to run a server except those that are mentally unstable.

[erog84]

Originally Posted by apio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are really only 6 people involved in the project.

Cavedude, who is also working on PEQTGC, and splits his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but coding (does an awesome job)
Robregen, who is also working on PEQTGC, and split his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but the DB (does an awesome job)
Secrets, who is also working on x other projects and split his time between all those, does not get involved in anything but coding, sometimes does some GMing(does an awesome job)
Torven, who has been doing most of the work since the project went beta DB wise, does not get involved in anything but DB and Parsing (does an awesome job)

Atri, who has been doing a bit of work on the webpage and account creation page, takes every bug report as a personal criticism, deletes posts from the forums, and got into fights with people on the forums in alpha. Has been invisible since beta launched.

Speedz, his only purpose since Beta launched has been creating a toxic playing environment. You are very welcome to proof me wrong and quote any other work he has done since beta started. He is also the only GM in charge of the community. There are 2 other GMs (Tiny and Zawayne), one of whom is never around while the other has been observed single pulling mobs on his GM character for his regular characters. This has also been reported to Speedz but apparently there were no consequences.

I know this project is going to keep developing on the technical side, there are some very bright and promising people working on it. On the people side of things however, things are looking very bleak. I am having a hard time motivating myself to "fight" my injust ban when all I have to look forward to is more of the same in the future. The guy cant even post a Poll Thread without looking completely biased, shooting down valid points and calling them "off topic" when they don't fit his narrative.

It is basically one person being in charge of everything that doesn't involve Code, and that's bad news for everyone, not just me

This x100.

[Erasong]

more people banned last night for bs that the gm's dont wanna lose face about. play here at your own risk. its like epicemu sleeper all over again.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Erasong [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

more people banned last night for bs that the gm's dont wanna lose face about. play here at your own risk. its like epicemu sleeper all over again.

definitely isn't as bad as the sleeper.

from one of their in-game GMs:

Originally Posted by Zarwayne

Statistics:
Baned users since January - 5

1nd ban: Zamiel - Automated Scripting (warning); AFK automated scripting, Boxing more then 3 characters -using automated scripting (Banned)
2rd ban: mandelor93 - Excessive swearing at GM's (was before my time; never tried to appeal the ban with non-vulgar attitude) (Banned)
3th ban: Deface - Multiple forums accounts; excessive swearing at GM's (I attempted to help this guy but he refused my assistance) (Banned)
4th ban: Iance - Consistent Harassment, creating community division, vulgar language in PM/Tells - Detailed in other thread (this is under review)
5th ban: Eashan - Administrative Ban (Due to threats issued to a host server- global host ban); multiple forum accounts.

I will post a report later detailing the 4th and 5th bans. I need to get additional permissions to share evidence.

It takes a lot to get banned permanently here. most will get a warning first and a chance to redeem themselves. aside from number 5 we have had free reign to temporarily suspend the member in one form or the other.

now, it seems like multiple people may have gotten caught up in that #5 ban, and the GMs mistakenly thought all those accounts were the same person. if that is true, i hope it gets cleared up. but yeah, only 5-7 bans so far, in a month and a half. so, definitely better GMing than The Sleeper. by this point in The Sleeper timeline Kegz had already banned like a dozen or more people, given a couple people the in-game title of "The Whiner," deleted a ton of Lodizal loot over a minor database error that HE made, and edited or deleted probably like a hundred forum posts that made him look bad. supposedly the TAKP forum crew have deleted a a handful of posts for similar reasons, but it is nowhere near the mass fascism campaign Kegz was running. there's at least a dozen threads on the TAKP forums right now that would have gotten a dozen or more players banned in-game on The Sleeper.

so, yeah, shit is a little wonky over at TAKP right now, but nothing surprising for a server that is in its infancy. comparing TAKP to The Sleeper is definitely unfounded.

[falendar]

if someone can PM me and tell me how to get this running on a pc would be great.