BDA to Phinigel

[Relbaic]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My criticisms of BDA have nothing to do with cheating or exploiting or any of this shit we're talking about so. BDA just used the fact that some OGC members got suspended as a deflection when I called out their typical propaganda bullshit and I pointed out that Chest has no way to backup his claim of 0 BDA people being suspended. Then it just went on and on til we arrived here.

And you have no way to back up your claim that we must definitely have someone(s) that got suspended for it.

Friday was literally the first I had heard about this in guild chat/forums. But I'm probably lying because I'm in BDA and we just spin stuff to make ourselves look good, right Trollolololol?

[Nibblewitz]

"Cheating is a victim-less crime" - Ring War Thief

[Papa]

he (jcr) clearly surrounds himself with like-minded individuals of reputation, and has been employing a fallacious argument common among thieves. he cant imagine a guild where people generally aren't shitty.

he makes an argument from incredulity (appeal to common sense) – "i cannot imagine how this could be true, therefore it must be false."

very common informal fallacy, hth

[Papa]

aka sad/sick brain

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seen monks, shadowknights and warriors tell me mobs spawn before it even pops on my track. Unfortunately it's not an EoE thing. Seen people from AoS, EoE, IVAS, OGC, and a few other randoms blatantly using it.

People have no problems telling you when mobs have just spawned before track cycles through on a class without track on a mob well outside of their range to possibily know it spawned.

I always thought it would be fun to try to use MQ2 to totally automate a few box chars.

I bet given a few months of development time I could automate an entire raid (including FTErs) and make A/A beg for mercy.

[Papa]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Cheating is a victim-less crime" - Ring War Thief

[jcr4990]

Raise your hand if you believe Nibblewitz has never abused unintended Everquest mechanics

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Papa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he (jcr) clearly surrounds himself with like-minded individuals of reputation, and has been employing a fallacious argument common among thieves. he cant imagine a guild where people generally aren't shitty.

he makes an argument from incredulity (appeal to common sense) – "i cannot imagine how this could be true, therefore it must be false."

very common informal fallacy, hth

You seem to be forgetting I was a very high attendance contributing member of the guild I'm speaking of for 2 years. I know the inner workings and I know all the core members. You can believe the propaganda or you can believe someone who's been there and has no vested interest in maintaining my guilds image or attempting to win points with a corrupt loot council by repeating the approved guild talking points on the forums.

Your choice

[Valakut]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I always thought it would be fun to try to use MQ2 to totally automate a few box chars.

I bet given a few months of development time I could automate an entire raid (including FTErs) and make A/A beg for mercy.

would take less than a day to get it up and running on PEQ The Grand Creation

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Nibblewitz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Cheating is a victim-less crime" - Ring War Thief

TRIPLE POST OF FURY. 2 more points I wanted to make real quick.

1: Nibblewitz do u have any idea how much shit Chest talked about you in vent after you left? He went on for like an hour. I don't think you'd come to BDA's defense so often if you knew what was said. I wish I had a recording for ya pal cause it was pretty rough. I remember thinking "Jesus man wasn't that guy just one of your top ranking officers/friends like a couple months ago?"

2: I did nothing that can even vaguely be called cheating when I "stole" the ring 8. What I did is essentially no different than KS'ing a quest mob which happens day in and day out on Phinigel btw. BDA was KSing my shard camp less than 24 hours after I left so let's not pretend BDA is above stealing things. I disobeyed a "player agreement" that I never agreed to. Sue me. Staff had no ruling whatsoever about it and zero punishment would've ever come of it had I chose to do absolutely nothing to attempt to make up for it. In fact I explained in detail what happened to Sirken in a petition and by the time he read it the other player had already gotten his ring 8 and nothing whatsoever was done. Most that would've happened is maybe getting kicked out of BDA which in hindsight probably would've been a blessing.