My proposal for Raiding guilds and GMs of P1999

Nizzarr · #1 06-16-2010, 10:49 AM

Hello all!

The times are dire! We need changes on the raiding scene of the p1999, as soon as possible.

Here's a solution to the problems I've partly created. Please debate the rules I'm proposing in this thread in a civil manners. Any flames, personal attack or bad mouthing will result in whatever the GMs will do to you :P Hopefully something harsh and permanent.

I am proposing a rotation, with certain guidelines and rules to keep this somewhat competitive.

Here is the mobs that will be on rotation:
a dracoliche
Maestro of rancor
Cazic thule
Innoruuk
Lady vox
Lord nagafen
Lord dojorn

We will get all interested guild leaders or officers together to /random who will get the next spawns to start this rotation.

***Please debate this*** Spawn variance will stay in.

***Please debate this*** Guilds will have 2 hours to kill their target, any numbers of wipe is allowed.

***Please debate this*** Second shots on raid targets will be /randomed with guilds that has at least 20 people in the zone. You will not be allowed to /random on the next or 2(if 3 guilds contest a second shot) next spawns if you win a /random.

EXAMPLE: a dracoliche spawns, Divinity has 2 hours to kill it. They do not kill it within the 2 hours. 2 hour is up, Theres 20 dark ascension in the zone, 20 inglorious bastard and 20 remedy. DA /random 100 and gets 76, remedy rolls 50 and IB rolls a 0. DA gets one attempt at the raid mob, Remedy and IB will roll for the second shot again if they are both present at the next dracoliche. If only IB is there for the second shot of the next dracoliche, DA cannot random against them for it. They get the second shot by default(if IB ISNT present within 2 hours, otherwise DA can claim it)

It might sound complicated but it really isnt.

***Please debate this***Camping raid mobs for second shot isnt allowed, unless you're ACTIVELY clearing a plane for armor drops.

***Please debate this*** Cazic thule, You have 5 hours to kill him from spawn.

***Please debate this*** Other guild should timestamp spawns with enough proof of spawn. This is either with a screenshot of the raidmob with a /time in the chat window, or a screenshot of track and /time.

***Please debate this*** I want a rotation on plane of air. 3 days for each guild, depending on the spawn time of the Island bosses. I'm sure the GMs can provide that information so we can tailor rules around them.

So thats pretty much it -- I am certain I have forgotten to list rules. I am also certain we will need more rules to guide this rotation.

This is just a draft for rules, please debate in this thread on what you think needs to be changed.

These rules were made to keep a somewhat competitive environment and to let other less hardcore guild get shots at content. I hope you will all give your opinions on those rules. They also remove the need to camp mobs endlessly!

Hope you all like those ideas!

Nizzarr

Officer of Dark ascension

Stickyfingers · #2 06-16-2010, 11:05 AM

I like this idea, nice job.

regatta · #3 06-16-2010, 11:08 AM

mgellan · #4 06-16-2010, 11:20 AM

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***Please debate this*** Second shots on raid targets will be /randomed with guilds that has at least 20 people in the zone. You will not be allowed to /random on the next or 2(if 3 guilds contest a second shot) next spawns if you win a /random.

Seems to me there's no need for a second/third/... random if the guilds with players in zone have rolled and established an order of precidence based on their roll...

Regards,
Mg

Supreme · #5 06-16-2010, 11:24 AM

but but..rotation isn't classic!

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I like what you are doing and what you are saying. However i think that a rotation will only serve to temporarily solve the bigger picture. Content is too well known for it to be a progressive challenge to players on p1999.

I have two options/proposals to choose from.

FIRST OPTION

Project 1999 goes to a GM enforced raid rotation. Following Nizzarr's plan he has laid out. As players continue to level to 50 they will seek to be a part of the rotation.

Pros

Guilds given fair chance at raid content
No perma-camping
Less Server Drama

Cons

No true competition
It is not classic EQ
As guilds join the rotation it is possible for a guild to only see 1 raid target per month or LESS!

SECOND OPTION

Develop a second server with a GM enforced raid rotation on 7 day spawns while leaving Project 1999 as a FFA raid server for the crazy hardcore. The fact is that with the release of Kunark the problems of raid rotations will not become easier it will become much worse. If there is no willingness to change the spawn times and give every guild a fair shot at the content then you will still have players that are "disenfranchised" by the entire project. Opening a second server will relieve the pressure of so many players that know 110% of the content.

Pros

Guilds given fair chance at raid content
No perma-camping
Less Server Drama
Leaves a server for true die hard classic fanatics that desire to be "The best"
Could possibly bring back players that left because of raid drama

Cons

Split server could affect server populations
No competition (could be a pro)
Content parallels may not be 100% exact with regards to mob placement,quests, finite details.
Could be Financially hard to maintain two servers

While my idea and the pros and cons of each are not complete nor are they exhaustive i try and think ahead of the problem. Kunark and i honestly feel SoV will bring the server population to such a level that it will be a significant problem for players that have already done the content and simply want to experience the classic EQ feel.

I 100% support (both development and financially) the creation of a second server to give players the option between "Hardcore" and "Carebear (or Normal)".

Phallax · #6 06-16-2010, 11:28 AM

rotation were very classic on my server, with 4 able raiding guilds, the same as there are here.

Supreme · #7 06-16-2010, 11:39 AM

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rotation were very classic on my server, with 4 able raiding guilds, the same as there are here.

I think there is actually about 7 or 8 guilds that can do all the content if given the chance...

ooantipostoo · #8 06-16-2010, 11:42 AM

What if one of the guilds doesn't agree to the rotation and just comes in and Ganks all of you?

Rotation was taken out for a reason

Patch Day Respawns is where its at!

randomer · #9 06-16-2010, 12:02 PM

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I think there is actually about 7 or 8 guilds that can do all the content if given the chance...

7 or 8 guilds ?! who ? more like 4 ib,da,divinity,remedy

Supreme · #10 06-16-2010, 12:18 PM

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7 or 8 guilds ?! who ? more like 4 ib,da,divinity,remedy

Ahh so unless you are currently PERMACAMPING the raid mobs that means you are not a valid raid guild?

I know alot of level 50s in Trans that no longer play that will come back with Kunark. I am sure there are alot of other 50s out there as well as guilds that have level 50s that are capable of raiding if given the chance but simply have better things to do than sit around 24/7 and permacamp 11 year old content.