Warriors are useless in 90% of the games content

[Jimjam]

*meant to type “they get little benefit from their spells” not stuns, but I think you figured that out - hopefully other readers will be able to also see past that brainfart!

[Toxigen]

dsm thinking p99 zones are all so full of players you're limited to only the mobs in your camp

this is nonsense, moar dps = moar gud

warrior is the best for people that aren't shitters

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dsm thinking p99 zones are all so full of players you're limited to only the mobs in your camp

this is nonsense, moar dps = moar gud

warrior is the best for people that aren't shitters

Being a sociopath and training zones because you desperately want to min/max XP with a Warrior tank is not a very good look. You can do this kind of pulling with Knights as well.

If your group has enough DPS to consistently do this kind of pulling without downtime, you don't need the Warrior DPS anyway. I've tanked in plenty of non-stop pulling groups. DPS wasn't the issue, respawn timers were.

[Snaggles]

If just casting aggro spells a hybrid has very little mana burn rate. Also, the likelihood of not having an enchanter or bard or PoTG is very low.

In a normal group unless casting heals, taps, or a ranger having to do excessive rooting/buffing they should be mana neutral.

Just play what you want. Accounts are free. If you get bored, level up all of them.

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dsm thinking p99 zones are all so full of players you're limited to only the mobs in your camp

this is nonsense, moar dps = moar gud

warrior is the best for people that aren't shitters

Outside raid gear and epics DW warriors do crappy dps and have marginal aggro.

[Toxigen]

laughs in evasive and 1k crippling blows

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

laughs in evasive and 1k crippling blows

Stops laughing when waiting for respawns, as large crippling blows don't matter when you have already hit your camp's DPS threshold. They are fun to watch, but that isn't an argument for which class has greater efficiency.

You also can't use evasive disc and use a damage increasing disc at the same time. You have to pick one.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stops laughing when waiting for respawns, as large crippling blows don't matter when you have already hit your camp's DPS threshold. They are fun to watch, but that isn't an argument for which class has greater efficiency.

You also can't use evasive disc and use a damage increasing disc at the same time. You have to pick one.

dont need a dmg disc to hit over 1k thems regular swings with eashen 2 hander bbycakes

nobody groups as 6 people except the mouth breathers in KC...thinking a 3 or 4 man (or shaman duo) doing work in an empty zone with more mobs than you can keep down

im taking the war every time

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dont need a dmg disc to hit over 1k thems regular swings with eashen 2 hander bbycakes

nobody groups as 6 people except the mouth breathers in KC...thinking a 3 or 4 man (or shaman duo) doing work in an empty zone with more mobs than you can keep down

im taking the war every time

You need to stay in Zerk, and have Eashen 2hander. Heals will occasionally take you out of Zerk if you are tanking, and evasive reduces your DPS. You are assuming harder to get weapons and no downtime on Zerk, which is not very realistic for normal play.

Looking at DPS a vacuum, while not taking into account any other variables, is why you are overestimating a warrior's capabilities.

In a scenario where you have limitless mobs due to an empty zone, there are still other factors to consider. Longer pulls mean you may get pathing issues. Having FD or Lull works great under those conditions. CC'ing mobs via root when Duoing/Trioing with a Shaman isn't the best of ideas in a caster heavy zone. You also keep forgetting that well geared Knights are no slouch when it comes to DPS. My SK is putting out at least 70 DPS with a cheap ToV weapon. With pet I can probably get closer to 80.

[Jimjam]

Evasive is bugged. It is just god mode vs blues and doesn’t feel like it substantially lowers dps (if at all). Would love to see parses for both p99 and classic.

Regarding lull imo just pull 5 mobs and cut pull times to a fifth. CC is negligible work.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Evasive is bugged. It is just god mode vs blues and doesn’t feel like it substantially lowers dps (if at all). Would love to see parses for both p99 and classic.

Regarding lull imo just pull 5 mobs and cut pull times to a fifth. CC is negligible work.

You cut pull times, but increase the chances of getting a bad pull or bad CC breaks in camp, which can set you back more. This gets riskier as you pull farther out due to things like pathing. And if you are limited due to other groups in zone, you will hit respawn timers.