End of the rotation?

[Culkasi]

GMs have also said that if they saw one or more guilds completely locking down R content and blocking other guilds from raid content, they would consider moving said guilds to class C. We will see if they follow up on that.

That said, that shouldn't be the main driver behind dropping this gun-slinger tactics, it should be respect and normal decency towards people who have worked hard, with BDA etc, to make this Class R work so well in the past year.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GMs have also said that if they saw one or more guilds completely locking down R content and blocking other guilds from raid content, they would consider moving said guilds to class C. We will see if they follow up on that.

That said, that shouldn't be the main driver behind dropping this gun-slinger tactics, it should be respect and normal decency towards people who have worked hard, with BDA etc, to make this Class R work so well in the past year.

The lockouts prevent sheer domination of Class R. I think that what people tend to forget is the raiding scale on this server. Are BDA or Taken more raid ready for an FFA scenario than say Europa, maybe. Does that mean BDA or Taken are even close to taking FFA kills from TMO or IB, I know BDA isn't.

The primary goal in C is to get VP kills right? BDA has 53 keyed members on our roster, at least 15 of those are inactive players currently. That means on a batphone we'd need to get damn near 100% turnout from our active VP characters and beat TMO/IB who have over a hundred keyed members each plus 4 years experience doing the content.

The rotation stunted the growth of every class R guild in that regard. I can guarantee you that any class R guild leader will tell you the same. Based on the rotation the rate at which you acquire VP teeth is about equal to the attrition rate of VP keys whether it be losing those members to other guilds or players just quitting. Hell, BDA had two splinter guilds make off with a pile of keys (FE errr TMO, and Omni)

[Argh]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The primary goal in C is to get VP kills right?

How many times have you tried to make the argument that the purpose of C/R is just about differing play styles and nothing else?

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many times have you tried to make the argument that the purpose of C/R is just about differing play styles and nothing else?

I've made the argument plenty of times, the staff has made it perfectly clear that they don't give a fuck about my argument.

[Argh]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've made the argument plenty of times, the staff has made it perfectly clear that they don't give a fuck about my argument.

So you were/are wrong then?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The lockouts prevent sheer domination of Class R. I think that what people tend to forget is the raiding scale on this server. Are BDA or Taken more raid ready for an FFA scenario than say Europa, maybe. Does that mean BDA or Taken are even close to taking FFA kills from TMO or IB, I know BDA isn't.

The primary goal in C is to get VP kills right? BDA has 53 keyed members on our roster, at least 15 of those are inactive players currently. That means on a batphone we'd need to get damn near 100% turnout from our active VP characters and beat TMO/IB who have over a hundred keyed members each plus 4 years experience doing the content.

The rotation stunted the growth of every class R guild in that regard. I can guarantee you that any class R guild leader will tell you the same. Based on the rotation the rate at which you acquire VP teeth is about equal to the attrition rate of VP keys whether it be losing those members to other guilds or players just quitting. Hell, BDA had two splinter guilds make off with a pile of keys (FE errr TMO, and Omni)

Lol, if only BDA had more teeth they'd be right there with us in VP guys. Class R -- give BDA all your teeth, i'm sure TMO would give some too to have another class C guild.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, if only BDA had more teeth they'd be right there with us in VP guys.

I don't think they want to compete or they'd be frantically keying and buying up those Asgard trak teeth rather than moaning about them being for sale.

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[Ravager]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, if only BDA had more teeth they'd be right there with us in VP guys. Class R -- give BDA all your teeth, i'm sure TMO would give some too to have another class C guild.

You guys must be having a tough go of it if you are shopping for another guild to merge with.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, if only BDA had more teeth they'd be right there with us in VP guys. Class R -- give BDA all your teeth, i'm sure TMO would give some too to have another class C guild.

Again, do you think BDA has any less teeth than FE did when we entered VP vs TMO?

That's a bullshit excuse from BDA, if they claim to not have enough teeth.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, do you think BDA has any less teeth than FE did when we entered VP vs TMO?

That's a bullshit excuse from BDA, if they claim to not have enough teeth.

FE was only competing against one guild, not two. FE had the option to train the shit out of their competition. FE could poopsock any and all Trakanons for more keys. But you're right. Same thing.