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Old 08-23-2023, 06:10 PM
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And by helping elect Republicans, you can rest assured you will always have your pipeline full of poor people in various states of bad times to assist/exploit. "Less" doesn't mean "none".
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:14 PM
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And by helping elect Republicans, you can rest assured you will always have your pipeline full of poor people in various states of bad times to assist/exploit. "Less" doesn't mean "none".
lol yea because democrats can “cure” poverty. “Hay Guyz ElEcT uS AnD nO mOrE PoOr aNd eVerYoNe’s dIcK gEts bIgGer + UNiCorNs!”
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:15 PM
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So if you right wing fellas are so convinced that "blue" cities are crime-ridden hellholes... what's your explanation for the rampant poverty in many "red" states?
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:16 PM
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This whole topic came up because botten was slinging some total bullshit yesterday about red cities having more crime, which as it turns out is just utterly false. Just a reminder.

You say I don't provide data. Then I say the reason I don't is because I know you'll find some bullshit reason to ignore it. Then exactly that happens.
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:18 PM
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Literally every blue hell hole is a tent city with human waste all over the side walks

It's total depravity and despair

All the blame lies squarely on the shoulders of demonic democrats
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:19 PM
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So if you right wing fellas are so convinced that "blue" cities are crime-ridden hellholes... what's your explanation for the rampant poverty in many "red" states?
I would assume the same sort of reasons: too much hard drug use, too few entry level jobs with upward mobility, population density

Just possibly slightly less crime, depending on the city

Pretty sure some of these super poor red states still have blue cities but not super on top of my geography
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:19 PM
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So if you right wing fellas are so convinced that "blue" cities are crime-ridden hellholes... what's your explanation for the rampant poverty in many "red" states?
Yes everyone understands that red cities also have crime. Nobody is saying that only blue cities have crime and that red cities have zero crime.

The problem is that the available data *clearly* shows blue cities have way more crime (specifically violent crime) than red cities, per capita. Which means population size is being controlled for.

So rather than deny that fact, maybe suggest ways that democrats can better control crime in their jurisdictions. Like for instance actually prosecuting and imprisoning violent criminals!
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:21 PM
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This whole topic came up because botten was slinging some total bullshit yesterday about red cities having more crime, which as it turns out is just utterly false. Just a reminder.

You say I don't provide data. Then I say the reason I don't is because I know you'll find some bullshit reason to ignore it. Then exactly that happens.
It does appear that FBI crime statistics are kinda garbage. There seems to be some database switch in the last few years and so much isn’t being reported. That site posted that some states like FL just don’t participate it’s like WTF? No offense FBI but your record keeping sounds like dogshit
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:22 PM
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Yes everyone understands that red cities also have crime. Nobody is saying that only blue cities have crime and that red cities have zero crime.

The problem is that the available data *clearly* shows blue cities have way more crime (specifically violent crime) than red cities, per capita. Which means population size is being controlled for.

So rather than deny that fact, maybe suggest ways that democrats can better control crime in their jurisdictions. Like for instance actually prosecuting and imprisoning violent criminals!
Can it be explained by density instead of politics?
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:25 PM
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Can it be explained by density instead of politics?
Definitely not internationally

There are parts of Asia, India, etc that are extremely population dense with not huge amounts of crime

But in the US, I could see how smashing people on top of each other in small spaces would lead to shitty attitudes. Too much traffic on the road is just the beginning….
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